From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 6 17:10:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27056 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 17:10:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from uz.ComCAT.COM (uz.ComCAT.COM [204.170.64.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27051 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 17:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jerryr@ComCAT.COM) Received: from uw.ComCAT.COM (uw [204.170.64.249]) by uz.ComCAT.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8/sol2/mh/19980701) with ESMTP; id UAA24793; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 20:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by uw.ComCAT.COM (8.9.1a/8.9.1/sol2/clnt/19981012) with SMTP id UAA13155; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 20:08:05 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: uw.ComCAT.COM: jerryr owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 20:08:04 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry X-Sender: jerryr@uw To: megarcia@lix.intercom.es cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How much to pay my ISP for my own Internet domain ? In-Reply-To: <19981207100338.V603@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Goto www.dnswiz.com $100 USD for the first two year (per domain) to do DNS and you maintain your record (unlimited whatever.your_doamin.com). You reg the name yourself at www.internic.net and use the tech info and DNS info from dnswiz's page. all you'll already need is a connect and a static ip. Its worked great for me. > On Saturday, 5 December 1998 at 21:11:39 +0100, Manuel Enrique Garcia Cuesta wrote: > > Greetings > > > > I have been querying my current ISP about the issues > > related to my registering and setting up a domain of my own, > > namely his handing me over a static IP address, his name servers > > playing secondary for my zone, and his mail machine receiving > > mail for my domain when my machine is not plugged to the Net > > (that will be 90% of the time ). I was expecting he would ask > > for big bucks, what he did. Anyway, being the newbie I am > > regarding most of the technical stuff I will admit beforehand > > that the costs he tells me about *might be* reasonable, but I > > would also like to ask the knowledgeable people in this list an > > opinion. > > > > > >> * Startup: > >> > >> - Static IP: USD 68 > > I suppose it's reasonable to assume that if you have a static IP, > you'll be using more resources, *assuming* that this also means a > guaranteed number to call any time you want. > > >> - Domain registration: USD 83 > > This is pretty much what Internic charges ($75), including the first > two years' fees. > > >> - DNS/SMTP configuration: USD 214 > > This seems ridiculously high. What do they need to do? > > 1. Add a DNS zone. Say, garcia.org. The entry looks like: > > zone "garcia.org" { > type slave; > file "db.garcia.org"; > masters {192.168.168.192}; > }; > > That's *all* they need to do. You do the rest. > > 2. Add your domain name to /etc/sendmail.cw: > > garcia.org > > And the want $214 for *that*? > > > >> - Mail delivery procedure: USD 54 (script that > >> notifies our server that yours is available to receive pending > >> messages ) > > Huh? Who are you and who are we? You have two choices with mail: > SMTP or POP. It seems that you have chosen SMTP, with which I agree. > When you dial in, you have a script which connects to their smtp > server and says: > > ETRN garcia.org > > That's all. > > >> * Monthly maintenance: > >> > >> - Static IP: USD 22 > > Is this about the phone line rental? In that case, it might be > justified. > > >> - Domain: USD 27 > > Huh? They already charge (a) for the registration, which includes the > first two years' charges and (b) for the name server. This is even > more than I had to pay to DE-NIC in Germany for having a .de domain. > Is this maybe the cost of an .es domain, as opposed to a .com or .org > domain? > > >>> 16% VAT > > > > This all adds to what they are already setting me back for > > "normal" Internet access, some USD 25 a month. > > > > By the way, I told them I would register the domain myself > > with the InterNIC. > > That's the way to do it. So what's the money for? > > > They charge Spanish pesetas obviously, I have applied an > > aproximate exchange rate. > > > > I don't know how important this might be, but I think they > > are running mainly Linux and perhaps some Windows NT. > > You need to find this out. > > > I know this question is somewhat off topic, but I don't > > know of any better place where to ask. Personally, I think it is > > outrageously expensive, much more than it should be. Somebody > > please convince me that it's not. Thanks in advance, > > I think it is outrageously expensive, much more than it should be. > > Depending on where you live, you may not have much choice. But you > have some. The one thing you *must* have from your ISP is the static > address. OK, that's not even the most expensive thing (the ongoing > domain registration stuff is), but you don't get a choice. > > Next, you find somebody who will host your name server and secondary > MX records for you. People who run University systems or some such > might be pleased to oblige. They don't even need to be near you--for > example, I have a secondary DNS server in England (I live in > Australia), though it's a good idea to have relatively good > connectivity to your next MX. > > If you do this, you'll drop the setup costs from $419 to $68, and the > monthly costs from $49 to $22. The question is: do you know somebody > who would oblige? > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers > finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message