From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 12 10:56: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2880E1587E for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:55:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p25-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.163.200.122]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id CAA27454; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 02:55:53 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38037418.BC112172@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 02:47:04 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.5-stable ? References: <199910121704.NAA45110@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Lucas wrote: > > With 2.2.x, we has several months of "reliable stable" operation. I'm > just concerned because I'm waiting to upgrade some 2.2x systems until > 3.5. I'd rather not go through the upgrade just to face the same > software backporting issues I'm currently facing with 2.x systems > after only a couple months. 2.2.x went so long because 3.x took so long. 3.0 was once called 2.3, even. The not-as-impressively-stable-as-2.2.[5678] status of 3.x is to a large extent a result of it's delay. It became too much in a single step, which, in turn, end up resulting in a much larger amount of time needed to stabilize the code. Frankly, a year and a half is way too much wait for a system to become stable. Hopefully, the shorter development cycle of 4.0 will result in a 4.x line getting stabilized much faster. All of the above is IMHO, though. All that said, 3.x-stable is quite reliable. Most problem reports I have seen turned out to be operator errors, with a few known trouble spots (nfs, out of mbufs panic). The releases have been cursed with annoying problems getting past unnoticed, but they have been related to installation, not reliability, and a simple wait of a couple of weeks and use of Errata mitigates it. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "I always feel generous when I'm in the inner circle of a conspiracy to subvert the world order and, with a small group of allies, just defeated an alien invasion. Maybe I should value myself a little more?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message