From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 9 19:36:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17793106564A for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:36:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (pancho.soaustin.net [76.74.250.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9A18FC19 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 80B6956173; Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:36:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:36:53 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Arnaud Lacombe Message-ID: <20120109193653.GB10061@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD current mailing list , Chris Rees Subject: Re: stable/9 still looking for packages at 9-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:36:54 -0000 > On 9 January 2012 18:16, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: >> Excellent!  You've shown the ability to understand flat, declarative, >> sentences that have no qualifying phrases. >> > FWIW, this was more a sarcastic sentence I am being sarcastic because I am frustrated. I am frustrated because I am having to repeat myself. > pointing out that FreeBSD is currently officially distributing > non-released build in a directory which might leads users to consider > this is the official release, thus misleading them. I pointed out no such thing. I am not misleading anyone, nor is the Project. You are. It is not "officially distributing". It won't be "officially distributed" until, and only until, the signed email goes out. This is the third email in a row where I have made this flat, factual, statement. Until that time, the contents of various websites is irrelevant. That mail will not go out until (among other things): - the Release Engineering team determines there are no last-minute gotchas, - all the bits are on all the mirrors, so that users will not go to their local mirror, find it not there yet, then pound on the master, bringing it to a crawl, - the Release Notes are in their final form, - a news announcement is in its final form, and other things that I, not being on re@, am probably not aware of. These things are the *preparation* steps. They all have to be in place to make sure that everything is ready for when the mass downloads begin. This is to prevent people who are installing the release from having a bad experience, e.g., with missing documentation. > > Do you expect me to consult freebsd-announce@, verify the signature > > of the announce, the hash of the ISOs, etc. to consider that 9.0 has > > been released ? That is exactly what I expect. In fact, I insist on it. And the reason I insist on it is because this is the documented procedure, and has been for at least 14 releases in the last 6 years, and most likely many before I became active. > > No, I see 9.0 ISOs in a `releases' directory, I assume it has been > > released, whatever your spreading process is. You assumed so, posted, were told it was not correct, and cannot seem to accept that answer. I'm sorry, but it's the correct answer, and all the argumentation in the world will not change that answer. > > Btw, none of the CHECKSUMS files are signed on the FTP. Perhaps that's part of the preparatory steps. mcl