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Date:      Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:23:06 -0700
From:      Scott Long <scottl@freebsd.org>
To:        Stephen Montgomery-Smith <stephen@math.missouri.edu>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Beastie
Message-ID:  <41AA79FA.6070603@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu>
References:  <41AA785C.5020304@math.missouri.edu>

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Add the following to /boot/loader.conf:

beastie_disable=YES

You can also remove the following lines from /boot/loader.4th:

\ Load in the boot menu
include /boot/beastie.4th

\ Start the boot menu
beastie-start

Scott

Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
> It is with a little intrepidation that I ask this question, because I 
> sense that what I am about to ask might push some buttons, or perhaps 
> bring back some unpleasant memories of those who have asked what I am 
> going to ask in a less tactful manner.
> 
> I find that the beastie that appears at boot time with FreeBSD 5.3 
> mildly bothers me.  It is possible for me to edit boot/beastie.4th, but 
> this gets put back each time I do make installworld.
> 
> Would it be possible to add a variable "show_beastie" to be put in 
> /boot/loader.conf, which would default to "YES", but users could add in 
> show_beastie="NO" if they didn't want it, but only want the menu.
> 
> I am sure that this is a sensitive subject with you guys, because I know 
> that you have no intention of associating FreeBSD with satanism or 
> anything like that.  It is not my intention to apply any kind of label 
> of evil to you guys, indeed I find FreeBSD to be a very fine operating 
> system, and I use it all the time.  But the symbol which is commonly 
> associated with the devil does cause me some discomfort, and for 
> example, if I were to install some kind of server for my church, I think 
> that it would bother them as well.
> 
> I know that the the symbol of the beastie is strongly associated with 
> FreeBSD, and that it would be grossly unfair for me to ask for it to be 
> removed just because of my personal discomfort.
> 
> That is why I am proposing the solution above.  I think that it would be 
> easy to implement by anyone who knows Forth (presuming that the 
> loader.conf variables are known to the beastie.4th program), and that 
> this would not interfere at all with those who don't mind or enjoy the 
> beastie, but it would also help people like me in an unobtrusive manner.
> 
> Best, Stephen
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