From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sun Mar 7 11:18:46 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7CB5636F4 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 11:18:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Dtf9f27xtz4grW; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 11:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id 127BIdtP068338; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 03:18:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id 127BId2B068337; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 03:18:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <202103071118.127BId2B068337@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD-13.0-RC1-amd64-disc1.iso unbootable on memstick In-Reply-To: <20210307195533.f92a0573c77213d1d41eb24d@dec.sakura.ne.jp> To: junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 03:18:39 -0800 (PST) CC: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, rgrimes@freebsd.org Reply-To: rgrimes@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Dtf9f27xtz4grW X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 16:49:25 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 11:18:46 -0000 > Hi. > > Are you shure you're using *.memstick.img? I am shure I am NOT using memstick, as the subject says I am using: FreeBSD-13.0-RC1-amd64-disc1.iso > *.iso are for optical drives. Ah, not since 12.0, these are now "hybrid" type images that are designed to be written to either a dvd or memstick. > If your memstick can perfectly (or at least enough for CD loader and > kernel) mimic optical drive, maybe with help by firmware, it would be > able to boot. > > Otherwise, you should write FreeBSD-13.0-RC1-*-memstick.img with > dd. If you are using enough-sized memstick and amd64 arch PC, > FreeBSD-13.0-RC1-amd64-mrmstick.img should be preferred. > > Note that if you downloaded smaller xz compressed image, you shoule > decompress it before writing. > > If you are using *-memstick.img, something should need fixed. I have tested the memstick image it works fine. I have also done further investigation and this appears to be a Legacy/bios vs EFI mode issue. All legacy only machines fail to boot with the above error, all dual mode machines must be forced into either EFI only, or dual mode/EFI first inorder to boot these images. EFI only machines boot fine. Is what it looks like is we have lost the ability to boot the .iso images in bios mode from a memory stick. I have NOT done any testing on dvd media. Further note all of this works fine upto and including BETA4 on all my legacy bios machines, though I do see another environment that fails at BETA4 and continues to, but that is rather special, called ventoy: https://www.ventoy.net/ that environment is probably looking very much like a legacy BIOS system as to the way I have my ventoy setup. > On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 01:06:14 -0800 (PST) > "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > Glen, > > Things get worse... I could at least boot the BETA4 .iso when > > I wrote it to a memstick. I can NOT boot the RC1. I have checked > > the sha512 of my image, wrote it twice, same results, I get: I have now had Michael Dexter duplicate my findings, if he sets his machines to either legacy first, or legacy only he gets the same boot failures that I do when using the FreeBSD-13.0-RC1-amd64-disc1.iso image. > > > > CD Loader 1.2 > > > > Bulding the boot loader arguments > > Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... File not found > > Looking up /boot/loader... File not found > > Boot failed > > > > I have tried 2 different systems, all known to have booted and > > installed many many many FreeBSD's from prior .iso written to > > memstick. Now expanded to 4 systems, 2 of which can do dual mode Legacy/EFI. > > > > Regards, > > -- > > Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- > Tomoaki AOKI > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org