From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jul 27 10:35:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from purus.tcoip (unknown [200.199.244.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D333037B401; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daniel.sobral@tcoip.com.br) Received: from tcoip.com.br (q0dqi0ho7bndx1ht@dcs.tcoip.com.br [192.168.60.194]) by purus.tcoip (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6RHUkA14466; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:30:46 -0300 Message-ID: <3B61A545.4010803@tcoip.com.br> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:30:45 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010705 X-Accept-Language: en, pt-br, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Shawn Ramsey , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Crashing every two hours! References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010727073615.029e9058@192.168.0.12> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 09:55 PM 7/26/2001 -0700, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > >> I just upgraded one of our servers from 4.1.1. That server had never > > > > Can you provide some more details about hardware, kernel config etc ? > Also, see the handbook on how to provide a crash dump. With that info, > people might be able to better diagnose what your problem is. That information is no longer in the handbook. Now it can only be found in the developers-handbook. Alas, let me take this opportunity to complain about this lousy idea. Normal users, much more than developers, need the information on how to compile a kernel to provide the information, how to extract such information, and what to extract. Sure, a developer can understand better and do things like select the appropriate frame and display the appropriate variables, but compiling a kernel for debug symbols, locating the crash dumps, calling gdb on them with symbol table and typing "list" and "bt" helps a lot already, and the user can then be further instructed in what to do. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) Daniel.Sobral@tcoip.com.br dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@notorious.bsdconspiracy.net They can't stop us... we're on a mission from God! -- The Blues Brothers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message