From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Mar 27 20:51:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA19220 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.research.megasoft.com (gw.research.megasoft.com [206.230.35.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19208 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gw.research.megasoft.com (8.7.5/8.7.3-cmcurtin) id XAA01112; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 23:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from goffette.research.megasoft.com(192.168.1.2) by gw.research.megasoft.com via smap (V1.3) id sma001110; Thu Mar 27 23:53:13 1997 Received: (from cmcurtin@localhost) by goffette.research.megasoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA25347; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 23:50:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 23:50:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703280450.XAA25347@goffette.research.megasoft.com> From: C Matthew Curtin To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Andrew Perry , chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SPAM -- Aren't you the person....? (fwd) In-Reply-To: <27919.859223994@time.cdrom.com> References: <27919.859223994@time.cdrom.com> Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v04.01. X-Face: "&>g(&eGr?u^F:nFihL%BsyS1[tCqG7}I2rGk4{aKJ5I_5A\*6RYn4"N.`1pPF9LO!Fa<(gj:12)?=uP2l01e10Gij"7j&-)torL^iBrNf\s7PDLm=rf[PjxtSbZ{J(@@j"q2/iV9^Mx>>>> "Jordan" == Jordan K Hubbard writes: Jordan> I suggest firing off angry letters to the various ISPs Jordan> involved whenever this happens (I do). Enough letters and you Jordan> can guarantee that the user(s) involved will generally be Jordan> toast afterwards. In more extreme cases, I use "whois" and Jordan> make some phone calls. Me too... Here's a form letter that I have... I fill in the various pieces, and add any necessary customization, PGP sign it, and fire it off. I actually get a fair number of notes from the ISPs a day or two later informing me that the problem has been dealt with. Also, I scan the text for any URLs... if they're advertising a web site, I copy this to the contacts of those hosting or feedin the site, and also look in the headers for an ad about which spam software was used. (I collect all of these, and like to bounce a copy of every spam I get to every one of the spam-software vendors :-) One spammer kept changing ISPs, after being killed from every one he blasted his spam from. I dug around and found a domain name that he registered and called him on the phone. I was very clear and direct in stating my extreme distaste with his apparant inability to play well with others, and he assured me that I'd receive no more of his ads. ------------------------- begin form letter -------------------------- The following SPAM came in from perhaps initiated by This spammer appears to be a customer of which is a customer of which is a customer of Contacts for all of these zones have been copied. Spamming is an intolerable abuse of our already overworked finite shared resources for the purpose of selfish, shameless personal profit. Please insititute a strong anit-spam policy, and refuse service for people who seem so hell-bent on killing what's left of the 'net. Please refer to http://www.vix.com/spam/ for more information. Thank you for dealing with spammers appropriately. If you have need of contacting me further, please feel free to do so. Email is by far the best way to reach me. Matt Curtin Chief Scientist Megasoft Online 819 Highway 33 East Freehold NJ 07728 +1 908 431 5300 x295 cmcurtin@research.megasoft.com ----------------------------- end letter ----------------------------- -- Matt Curtin Chief Scientist Megasoft, Inc. cmcurtin@research.megasoft.com http://www.research.megasoft.com/people/cmcurtin/ I speak only for myself Hacker Security Firewall Crypto PGP Privacy Unix Perl Java Internet Intranet