From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 13:31:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C141065676 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net (pih-relay06.plus.net [212.159.14.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8F88FC29 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=main) by pih-relay06.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1KvXcG-0000WI-BJ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:31:12 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Graham Bentley" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" References: <20081030123815.GA4568@icarus.home.lan> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:31:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 03870d5c780b6d11ce60c6fe19ddd5ef Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Marvell 88E8052 PCI-E LAN on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:31:15 -0000 > You need to keep something in mind here: Marvell does not give out > documentation for their cards publicly, so Yong-Hyeon has to > reverse-engineer and "tinker" with what he already knows. Some hardware > feature do not work, others are buggy, others work fine on specific > revisions of the chip while later ones break. Don't get me wrong - I appreciate that people are working in the trenches on this stuff and thats great about FreeBSD. I only switched to the Marvel .ko as it was suggested on previous questions list, so didnt spend much time with the stock 7.0 driver. > And if you tell me "Well Linux has support for this chip!", I will throw > the following evidence back in your face: Marvell and other companies > are giving Linux developers development PCI cards to develop drivers > with (sometimes even before the card is out in the market), so Linux has > the upper hand here. They are not doing this with the BSDs. I guess even specs would be nice - hardware donations would be nicer though :) > I would urge you to go out and purchase an Intel Pro/1000 PT card Funnily enough, in the back of my mind I had the same thought upon seeing the words 'Marvell' amongst the mobo spec. Thats said at least they made an effort on supporting multi OS http://www.marvell.com/drivers/search.do even if they are a precious with their specs etc With some Vendors its Windos or nothing.