From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 25 14:09:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E588D1065694 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954238FC0A for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6PDuHNI045740; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:56:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n6PDuHDD045737; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:56:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:56:17 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090725084138.f4338065.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20090723174350.GA1346@stamfordbru> <20090724085743.9abb7f2e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090724150239.GA1167@stamfordbru> <20090725084138.f4338065.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:56:17 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Bob Hall Subject: Re: Restarting hal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:09:45 -0000 On Sat, 25 Jul 2009, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:39 -0400, Bob Hall wrote: >> Aside from the ctrl-alt-bksp bug, this has been the easiest X setup I've >> ever done. I've tried it with and without hal and both are easy to set >> up. Given my level of ignorance, that's saying something. I've seen a >> lot of complaints about Xorg's new system, but I like it. > > I'm sure it works very well on up-to-date hardware, but on > older hardware, where all the autodetect magic won't work > properly, problems may occur. Furthermore, if you need to > have a "non-standard" keyboard layout, e. g. the german one, > this has to be set in a different place now. As far as I > know, HAL and DBUS, along with FreeBSD 8, work very well for > different automounting scenarios (CD, DVD, USB). > > Soon I will encounter the joy of the new X modularity > and dependencies. :-) > > It's still worth mentioning that it's possible to run X > in the "old fashioned" way, but DBUS and HAL have to be > excluded at compile time. Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" should disable hal devices even if xorg-server has been built with hal. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA