From owner-freebsd-security Wed Nov 1 3:26: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB7E37B4C5 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 03:26:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 13qw1d-0001O8-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2000 13:25:49 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id NAA22742; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:25:56 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 22600; Wed Nov 1 13:25:27 2000 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13qw1H-000I7O-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2000 13:25:27 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Ralph Huntington Cc: Szilveszter Adam , security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installer In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Nov 2000 05:38:20 EST." Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 13:25:27 +0200 Message-ID: <69649.973077927@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 01 Nov 2000 05:38:20 EST, Ralph Huntington wrote: > Puh-lease. I install and admin many BSD machines, mostly FreeBSD and > OpenBSD, and I would say that OpenBSD requires more knowledge to make > something useful - out of the box - than FreeBSD does. Discussions like this rarely result in something useful, because they're very unfocused. I would urge you both to consider trying to come up with concrete ideas (ideally backed up with code or documentation contributions) for improving the status quo. I would also like to suggest that further discussion take place off the freebsd-security mailing list, with which this line of discussion has only the most tenuous of links. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message