Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:39:49 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> Cc: "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> Subject: Re: svn commit: r281129 - head/etc Message-ID: <20150410083949.GA99728@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20150410082049.GV8220@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20150406084937.GX64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150406085323.GL23643@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409215802.GY21982@hades.panopticon> <20150409220442.GQ8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150409232711.GZ21982@hades.panopticon> <20150409234026.GH1394@zxy.spb.ru> <20150410000259.GA21982@hades.panopticon> <20150410070845.GU8220@zxy.spb.ru> <20150410073230.GE99375@FreeBSD.org> <20150410082049.GV8220@zxy.spb.ru>
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On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:20:49AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:32:30AM +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:08:45AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > S> What benefits from switching to utf8 locale in 'default' login class? > > > > Being on the same page as rest of the world? > > What benfit from it? > What is rest of world? > Windows used UTF-16 > Centos used en_US.UTF-8 > Ubuntu used C Ubuntu is also xx_YY.UTF-8 depending on one's regional settings, but that does not really matter. > I don't see common locale for 'rest of the world'. It's not about having "common locale" with the rest of the world, it's the other way around: UTF-8 is far superior to anything else, and that's why the world (sane part thereof) switched to it, earlier or later. I was just as conservative as you Slawa, and was perfectly happy with KOI8, but really, it should go now. It served us well, but in the multi-language world it has no place, for better or for worse. The unfortunate fat that nvi(1) is truncating files merely means that we'd have to fix nvi(1), not further delay finally going to bed with UTF-8. ./danfe
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