From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 10 18:53:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E093F10656C2; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:53:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF0F8FC13; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:53:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n3AIoDpW047760; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:50:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:51:04 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20090410.125104.87768818.imp@bsdimp.com> To: brooks@FreeBSD.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20090410184337.GA6661@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20090409153805.GB83847@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20090410.123404.-1398308997.imp@bsdimp.com> <20090410184337.GA6661@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, amdmi3@amdmi3.ru, des@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r190031 - head/etc/defaults X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:53:17 -0000 In message: <20090410184337.GA6661@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> Brooks Davis writes: : On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:34:04PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > In message: <20090409153805.GB83847@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> : > Brooks Davis writes: : > : Unless you have one of the few interfaces that does not generate : > : link status events, dhclient will be started by devd. The only ones I : > : know of are a subset set of ed(4) devices, though I think imp may have : > : fixed those recently with a stub ifmedia interface. : > : > I think ep(4) is the only "common" case left. For ed(4) we now do the : > right thing for the really old cards (those without a MII) as well as : > the merely old cards (those with a phy). For the really old cards, we : > generally default to "Link is up all the time" as our status, : > specifically to keep dhclient happy. : > : > Of course, the number of users of these cards is quite low these : > days... I've fixed a number of bugs that should have been bad enough : > for people to complain, but since nobody did, I'm guessing the install : > base is smaller than I'd thought... : : Good to know. This will be pretty useful since some emulators seem to : emulate very old ed devices. That's true. Although performance on the ed(4) devices are rather pathetic by today's standards, at least it would work. Good thing most of the emulators don't try to be cycle accurate. Warner