From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 12:17:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7981065670 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from farris.bafirst.com (adsl-074-165-190-154.sip.jan.bellsouth.net [74.165.190.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BE68FC1C for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:17:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from HOME.encontacto.net ([189.129.17.152]) by farris.bafirst.com with esmtp; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:17:16 -0600 id 0006D418.47CA9ACD.00014CD7 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by HOME.encontacto.net with local; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:17:16 -0600 id 0004AC1D.47CA9ACC.00014251 Received: from 172.16.0.2 ([172.16.0.2]) by intranet.encontacto.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:16:28 -0600 Message-ID: <20080302061628.689932a7sed2bcmc@intranet.encontacto.net> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:16:28 -0600 From: eculp To: Chad Gross References: <20080301194514.93686v93heexups0@intranet.encontacto.net> <20080302041321.774bc502.coolzone@it.dk> <4EFB7E35-456B-49B5-8212-08B1759E0C34@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EFB7E35-456B-49B5-8212-08B1759E0C34@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:17:16 -0600 Resent-From: eculp@encontacto.net Resent-To: freebsd-questions Resent-Message-ID: <20080302061716.31173m68its1dhgk@intranet.encontacto.net> Old-Return-Path: eculp@encontacto.net User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) Cc: Subject: Re: Suggestions for OS to use behind freebsd pf firewalls. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:17:19 -0000 Quoting Chad Gross : > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Rico Secada wrote: > >> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:45:14 -0600 >> eculp wrote: >> >>> I have installed freebsd server in a small company that has approx >>> 30 pc's of all sizes, shapes, brands, etc. They have just realized >>> that a large part of the problems that they had before the firewall >>> was caused by the 30 windows pc's that were connected directly to >>> the ISP's wireless router. They would like to change the PC's to >>> unix desktops. >>> >>> I would like to install FreeBSD or any other bsd but don't feel that >>> we have the drivers available to substitute such a wide variety of >>> hardware. I would love to be proven wrong. Therefore I am >>> considering a linux version with a graphic installer that will make >>> it easier to train someone to install on any new machines that they >>> add later. My problem is that I haven't done a linux install since >>> before FreeBSD 2.2 IIRC and have no idea which version would be the >>> most versatile and has an installer that is basically brain dead >>> simple with most all drivers. I suspect that I am asking the >>> impossible but you never know. >>> >>> I'm sure that I'm not the only person to run into this situation and >>> I would sure appreciate any suggestions. >> >> In my experience from similar situations I would recommend OpenSUSE >> from Novell, since it has to be as windows "like" as possible. OpenSUSE >> is very well supported and since it is Novell who is behind the distro, >> the company can provide professional support. >> >> In general I recommend Debian over any distro, but in some rare cases >> like this one, I would rather recommend OpenSUSE. > > > I would recommend investigating Ubuntu or one of it's clones (e.g. =20 > Xubuntu, Kubuntu). The install is "brainless", they offer commercial =20 > support through the parent company Canonical, and they are =20 > Debian-based. Hi Chad, Thanks a lot, I just tried the latest and greatest Ubuntu on my PITA =20 laptop, acer 5520-5679, that is running FreeBSD current amd64 and was =20 unable to get to the next step after the X configuration on the =20 graphic installer. I got no error so maybe I should have waited =20 longer and something would have happened. I think I dislike graphic =20 installers unless maybe they were verbose and give an indication of =20 the problem. > Another option would be PC-BSD or DesktopBSD as they both have very =20 > easy installations and will support most things that the above =20 > support. The only stipulation that I have run into is the standard =20 > trouble of Flash on BSD operating systems. Very true. Windows folks, have a hardtime not just clicking on the =20 "you must update to the latest version of the flash player" or =20 something like that and expecting it to just work. Thanks again, ed >> >> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> ed >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" >