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Hausen" Cc: Greg Rivers , "ports@freebsd.org" , "ler@freebsd.org" References: <4797626.YNO7O01DYZ@no.place.like.home> <39391265.yjtGejjdTc@no.place.like.home> <2e5a17a5-cc66-9189-ef3e-35605f59dcce@bayofrum.net> From: Chris Rees Message-ID: <3cfc414b-8ec6-f7e6-2700-7068afab37b7@bayofrum.net> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:48:57 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A742F18.6040ACD8.002D, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=2.3 cv=KKQk82No c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VPjlEbx5XC2baNimRf67MQ==:117 a=VPjlEbx5XC2baNimRf67MQ==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=dESyimp9J3IA:10 a=ZB5LerlCAAAA:8 a=ThFS3FbEAAAA:20 a=lKsZda-P2VYnNIp63DgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=YKPTzOroS2oaEK2QgPcx:22 a=BPzZvq435JnGatEyYwdK:22 X-Origin-Country: GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DrmJW2nnNz3D0J X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[freebsd-ports]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 09:48:12 -0000 Hi Patrick, On 04/03/2021 08:50, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > Hi all, > >> Am 04.03.2021 um 02:17 schrieb Chris Rees : >> The problem is, that although the php80 flavour does not depend on pecl-pdflib, the default flavour does, >> which means that the package will not be built as it you have to agree to pecl-pdflib's licence. > I am not a lawyer. That being said I have done some homework and did a lot if reading > in February 2020. Sent my findings to the port maintainer of print/pdflib, but did not get > a response, unfortunately. > > My conclusion is that you don't need to agree to PDFlib GmbH's license, because all > of the legalese on their home page applies to a completely different product than the > one used by pecl-pdflib. > > But step by step ... > > 1. pecl-pdflib is published under the PHP license, so it is clearly open source. > 2. The FreeBSD port is not based on pdflib, but pdflib-lite - this is the crucial point. > 3. pdflib-lite is a product abandoned by PDFlib GmbH in 2011. > 4. pdflib-lite archives come with an open source license bundled in the archive. > 5. This is the only license applicable to our case. All the other licensing stuff on their > website applies to pdflib - *which is a completely different product*. > 6. The license bundled with pdflib-lite explicitly permits the distribution of binaries as > long as the license document and some other auxiliary files are included. > 7. The port does this and puts the necessary documents in /usr/local/share/doc/pdflib. > > You won't find any information about pdflib-lite on PDFlib GmbH's website, because > they pulled it. Nonetheless the source is "out there", bundled with a permissive license > which cannot be taken back. > > So the entire discussion is moot - as long as pecl-pdflib can be built with pdflib-lite. > > The problem with the port/packages infrastructure is that this line in ports/print/pdflib/Makefile > is nonsense, IMHO: > > RESTRICTED= Many odd restrictions on usage and distribution > > > Download the pdflib-lite tarball and see the documents for yourself. I am repeating myself: > all the legalese on the PDFlib GmbH website *does not apply* to this product (pdflib-lite). I'm afraid that this, which I found in pdflib-lite's readme.txt [1] differs on that opinion. ---- - PDFlib Lite   Open-source edition for basic PDF generation, free for personal use.   PDFlib Lite does not support all languages, and is not available on   EBCDIC platforms. ---- "Free for personal use" is not Free, and that's why the licence must be acknowledged. Unless you have found explicit mention that it is definitely under the PHP licence? Chris [1] https://github.com/Distrotech/PDFlib-Lite