From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 18:05:44 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8281065672 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f228.google.com (mail-ew0-f228.google.com [209.85.219.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73938FC0C for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so857343ewy.13 for ; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:05:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TrIrC8r4bBDqW2kMLjycIHnyBSeSJC4orrAgwe3GnH0=; b=v0MFiMbAkmEboI7Jp3X3ULiEF7DIsVEPujdcOmwJjHhHKJdLMIDJ5MPRWHeDMrYOXi Qk3qm505VKZyPUBf88VfQeYgaL9wasuxgoZBDeUs2N4QSLvVSgSnwznzMJXRHdDtaiIr pKIRvRb5/Brq1ae9klAD/WLIWwQv/zK30S3wQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=A36XuWC74Ndz9gJxx1ry9Qvgc6QJBwT/1sgs9x5xwA9DNtzLiQCib1QJagBpOS+KiT oZOVLPdoPqfY29DLcnGYM8gR+oMUDxqfwH7wDz1FGT9OdzmwMcl4yV7FadQzaF0rf9xw aoXKJDCGTjcSrAcvblCF0lPLIqZS87OzVNxjM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.102.75 with SMTP id f11mr1650691ebo.79.1267898735802; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:05:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20100305120021.52F79106566B@hub.freebsd.org> <20100306044916.ce02523e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20100306080358.GE9762@amd.catfish.ddns.org> <20100306092541.1b0c279b.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:05:35 +0000 Message-ID: <3a142e751003061005u53612bfawf9eb31e45c16bf03@mail.gmail.com> From: Paul B Mahol To: "C. P. Ghost" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flash viewer for FBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:05:44 -0000 On 3/6/10, C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:03:58 +0100, Sabine Baer wrote: >>> Well, it is, indeed. Me I am very glad beeing able to do eg >>> linux-opera -display :0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhmf4l4OxNw >>> since I live in a Windows free zone at home. >> >> Well, there's always "youtube-dl -a" for that. Just for YT >> I don't need "Flash". > > That's true. I love youtube-dl too, as it helps me keep a local > .flv copy, even for videos that have been removed for one reason > or another. > > However, there are other video sites like dailymotion. What > downloader do you use for these? clive, and it can pass url directly to mplayer, so it works with lynx and elinks too. (vlc and xine should also work ...) clive also allow to pick quality of video. > > And remember, youtube-dl is a hack. It can break anytime > YT changes its embedding. I wished YouTube would switch > to HTML5, or at least added this as an option. > >> The "need", to illustrate that, is >> often nothing more than a useless barrier built by people >> who don't seem to know better. As I said before, most things >> that "Flash" can do could be achieved with standardized (!) >> and free means. And often, "Flash" is (ab)used to do idiotic >> things like simply providing animated buttons. > > I've talked with the IT department of a company recently who > had to switch from perfectly usable barrier-less HTML to Flash. > Actually, the IT guys didn't want to, but their management was > adamant. The main reason wasn't buttons or little animations, > but something much more mundane: the graphics design > company they hired to create their new corporate identity > insisted that the only way to get a 100% pixel-precise layout > was with Flash... and management fell for it. Basically, they > wanted to duplicate their glossy brochures 1:1, and didn't care > about reduced usability and accessibility. Incredibly silly move, > but their company, their decision. > >> With the upcoming HTML 5 standard, there's even a chance that >> "Flash" will be ignored by the rest of the world sooner >> or later. > > HTML 5 isn't the problem, that will be easy to implement. It's about > picking the right video codec. There's no high quality codec available > that is both ubiquitous in hardware, and unencumbered by patents. > >> Polytropon >> Magdeburg, Germany >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > -cpghost. > > -- > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >