From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Jan 20 14:17:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.cray.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A57337B400 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from thought.org (tao.sea.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15436; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f0KMHN634714; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:17:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:17:22 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Gregory Sutter , ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [john@sixgirls.org: [dn-articles] FreeBSD problems: newsworthy?] Message-ID: <20010120141722.A34501@tao.thought.org> References: <20010120133038.C7492@klapaucius.zer0.org> <20010120234228.A41947@rapier.smartspace.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010120234228.A41947@rapier.smartspace.co.za>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:42:28PM +0200 X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 11:42:28PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > On Sat 2001-01-20 (13:30), Gregory Sutter wrote: > > This person seems to be having some trouble with the state of his > > ports. I don't think that the Daemon News article submission address > > is the right place to ask, so I'll forward it here. Can anyone help him? > > I've expressed before, and will express again, my incredible dislike of > this port.mkversion "you have to upgrade or you can't use ports" thing > from a user level. Especially since we break it, and don't retain > support even for the last release. I previously offered to maintain > support for the old version of the stuff, provide patches, and so forth, > but Satoshi said he didn't want them in or something. > > I don't believe it's incredibly hard to provide this compatibility for > at least the latest release, or maybe even a few releases. It will also > irritate users less - I get complaints about it from my converts a lot. > I'll second this (and third and forth it as well!); I've lost count of the times I've been forced to upgrade because X didn't work. And all too often, X still failed because of old libraries or whatever lingering in some dark corner. Over the years, when things have continually failed, I'll say "FOO" and telnet to my SuSE box. gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message