From nobody Fri Jan 14 03:03:51 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED3B195AA88 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 03:04:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JZmNJ0K9Kz4d7J for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2022 03:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 20E33pRw043890; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:03:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Subject: Re: can't mount USB disk To: Valeri Galtsev , questions@freebsd.org References: <1511373289.461121272.1642019647543.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <0562bef6-ef53-0789-db37-4619f39dff2e@kicp.uchicago.edu> From: Gary Aitken Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Message-ID: <89fd4f04-97b2-2c30-62be-0f9badb5c6d2@dreamchaser.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:03:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0562bef6-ef53-0789-db37-4619f39dff2e@kicp.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:03:51 -0700 (MST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4JZmNJ0K9Kz4d7J X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.70 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.996]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 1/13/22 7:23 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On 1/12/22 10:56 PM, Gary Aitken wrote: >> On 1/12/22 1:34 PM, Dale Scott wrote: ... >> I would like to clean up some stuff on that drive but given your >> note I guess I guess I will do that from a linux system. When >> plugged into a win7 system the device doesn't show up as a >> labelled (i.e. bigletter:\) drive, so I can't easily delete things >> on the win7 system; not sure why that is. windows-backup seems to >> identify it ok and chooses it for backup. > > This doesn't sound right, it should be something else. I agree, which is why I wanted to look at it on my fbsd system. > If drive is partitioned and formatted (NTFS) under MS Windows [7, > 10], it stays the same after you use it for Windows backup, any of > them: > > 1. Windows image backup just creates big "system image" file with > default name, changed nothing else 2. Windows 7 style backup asks > which folder to use, and puts backups there, touched nothing else 3. > Windows 10 "file history" similarly uses folder of your choice, > leaving the rest of drive as it is. > > Something is wrong with the drive and I doubt any of the above > Windows tools are to blame. > > I would mount drive read-only, copy everything elsewhere, reformat > drive on Windows machine, copy everything back, and see if drive > behaves after that. > > I hope, it helps. Thanks; I was hoping to copy them and then make a tarball, but it appears they are a bunch of zip files and directories of zip files, so it will be more of a job. (It's a win7 backup). Anyway, I need to find more disk to do that. Gary