From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 9 10:35:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5828A16A4B3 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2F143F85 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:35:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h99HYtbe057585; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:34:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) h99HYtBl006772; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:34:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id h99HYtS9006771; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:34:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:34:55 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: "Adam C. Migus" Message-ID: <20031009173455.GB6603@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20031009.051338.97397249.imp@bsdimp.com> <51676.204.254.155.35.1065709199.squirrel@mail.migus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51676.204.254.155.35.1065709199.squirrel@mail.migus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: stefan@fafoe.narf.at cc: arch@freebsd.org cc: "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: sys/conf/DEFAULT[S] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:35:13 -0000 On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:19:59AM -0400, Adam C. Migus wrote: > > > > Also, it is more than a config issue. There will need to be some > > kernel source changes too. About 1/4 of the pc98 ifdefs could go > > away > > if the MACHINE/MACHINE_ARCH split were done more correctly for i386. > > > > If someone wants to step up and coordinate efforts with me on this? > It sounds reasonable to address in parallel. Is there anyone who'd > volunteer to work with me on the non-config end or at least provide > direction and expertise? I don't mind being the coordinator so as > to minimize the person(s) time in dealing with the issue. I suggest you focus on the config(8) part first. Find out how best to specify what to build given that (MACHINE_ARCH,MACHINE) doesn't quite capture it. If it's backwards compatible then we don't actually have to reorganize the source tree yet, which allows you to finish your initial goal and also allows mips and powerpc to play with it a bit before we commit to it by moving pc98 code around. I can help out, but more on a theoretical front. You probably want people like nyan@, jmallet@, benno@, grehan@ or imp@ to validate concepts with reality or provide you with the input you need to sketch the problem space. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net