From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 2 13:22:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6995E37B403 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 13:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f92KMWN58241 ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 22:22:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id WAA29834 ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 22:22:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 22:22:32 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: David Scheidt Cc: j mckitrick , "Gary W. Swearingen" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: code density vs readability Message-ID: <20011002222232.B28111@lpt.ens.fr> Mail-Followup-To: David Scheidt , j mckitrick , "Gary W. Swearingen" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011002213051.A28111@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rufus@brain.mics.net on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 04:13:46PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Scheidt said on Oct 2, 2001 at 16:13:46: > > That apart, I found vim's "multiple undo" scheme much more sensible > > than nvi's. (u for undo, repeatedly if desired, ^R for redo. Also > > more compatible with "traditional vi" where u is always undo, but once > > Bull feathers! That's entirely unlike real vi. That's u undoes, and u > again redoes the changes. Sorry, you're right. I somehow had the other impression, with my earlier use of ibm and irix machines; but I checked on hp-ux and dec unix just now and it matches with what you say. > > only.) But my big plus for vim is its paragraph-level operations, eg > > gqap for formatting a paragraph. Not a big deal with programs, but a > > huge help with text and emails, and even handles quoted email > > correctly and is great at unmangling Outlook-generated mail. I don't > > think nvi has that; traditional vi doesn't. > > > > I'm not convinced this needs to be part of the editor. Checkout par > (ports/textproc/par), I think it does everything vim does. Well, I want it to be part of the editor. I use the editor more for normal text than for programming. > > For programs, I like its syntax highlighting. I don't know whether > > nvi has that. > > I hope not... Well, you're obviously not an emacs user, anyway :) R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message