From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Sep 7 16:43:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA18220 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 16:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nico.telstra.net (nico.telstra.net [139.130.204.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA18213 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 16:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by nico.telstra.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA04233; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 09:40:48 +1000 Received: (grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id JAA16317; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 09:10:46 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19970908091046.29405@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 09:10:46 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Terry Lambert Cc: Brian Somers , doconnor@Ist.flinders.edu.au, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Divert sockets.. References: <199709071500.QAA23059@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> <199709071950.MAA24121@usr07.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199709071950.MAA24121@usr07.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Sun, Sep 07, 1997 at 07:50:52PM +0000 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, Sep 07, 1997 at 07:50:52PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: >>> Or maybe he's like me, and he can't get the thing to idle disconnect >>> because of the !@#$! keep-alives that are near-impossible to turn >>> off if you have a local net as well. >> >> Hmm. I have a local net of 8 machines, and I don't have any such >> problems. Of course you know about "set afilter". > > Sure. I just don't know what packets are triggering it. There's > almost nothing running at all (literally; no routed, named, > whatever). Who says it has to be at your end? > And there's the annoying localhost DNS lookup, even though host.conf > has "hosts" first, and the name of the machine I'm rlogin'ing into > is in /etc/hosts (it's myself). It triggers the PPP dial anyway, > and I think that should only happen for non-local hosts. Well, why aren't you running named? It's faster than looking up /etc/hosts. And if you don't tell the world it's there, it's not going to get any external traffic. >> The thing I don't understand is how re-writing anything is going to >> solve a problem where people want the link to shutdown subliminally :-) > > Change the ground rules on the shutdown, for one... different issues > for SLIP/ISDN, for another. Why? Greg