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Date:      Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:56:41 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        Bill Paul <wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: splash-page on bootup.. 
Message-ID:  <484.843497801@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:51:57 EDT." <199609231352.JAA18085@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> 

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> While you're all gushing all over yourselves with nifty splash page
> ideas, you're forgetting that not every FreeBSD machine out there has
> a graphics console. Yes boys and girls, some of us mutants actually
> use dumb ASCII terminals for consoles, and if you fuck up our ability

I wasn't going to get involved in this discussion until I noticed here
that Bill's #3 pressure release valve had stuck, and he was venting
dangerous overpressure. :-)

I don't think that *anyone* in this discussion has been suggesting
anything other than an option which could be turned *on*, affecting
the day-to-day life of Joe Random FreeBSD-Hacker not one whit.

This is not something that most people will need to concern themselves
with, and I've been looking at it more as a hidden feature used only
by people in the position of our hapless original poster or companies
producing products for which FreeBSD is merely an embeded component,
and you don't *want* your customers to see a bunch of FreeBSD probe
messages, you want them to see an animated graphic saying
"NetHumper 2000/10-ULTRA initializing...  Please wait."

If Soren or someone else would like to give them hooks for doing that,
then I'd say more power to 'em.  Those of you with the ASCII terminal
consoles will continue to use *your* hidden features for supporting
serial consoles and the world can be a happy, joyous place for
everyone, OK?

					Jordan

P.S. But I still won't be happy with the serial console support until
you're allowed to assign it after boot time. :-)



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