From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 03:59:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2DB16A417; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (cl-162.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4830:1200:a1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F91513C4BD; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAC3xAI5058950; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:59:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id lAC3xAw9058949; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:59:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:59:10 -0600 From: Brooks Davis To: Colin Percival Message-ID: <20071112035910.GA58802@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <200711081945.lA8JjKcW080540@repoman.freebsd.org> <47337724.9040108@FreeBSD.org> <47337940.6040909@root.org> <47340B74.9070004@freebsd.org> <4734B13C.6050008@root.org> <4735008D.7030600@FreeBSD.org> <473667FF.2010005@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473667FF.2010005@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:59:11 -0600 (CST) Cc: Maxim Sobolev , src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway , cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Nate Lawson Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/amd64/amd64 mp_machdep.c src/sys/i386/i386 mp_machdep.c X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:59:13 -0000 --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 06:25:03PM -0800, Colin Percival wrote: > Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > For what it is worth I think Nate has the correct point. We should not > > force this setting upon each and every user if it can realistically > > affect only 0.0001% of our userbase. >=20 > We're not forcing anything -- it's configurable via loader.conf. All > we're talking about is changing the default value. >=20 > > By the way, I wonder how sun4v (aka Niagara) fares in this respect. As > > long as I know, they use similar concept, when 8 physical cores can run > > 32 threads. Should we disable it by default there as well? ;-) >=20 > I haven't seen any experiments done on sun4v, but I'm less concerned about > it since I believe sun4v boxes are used more often for large computing jo= bs > rather than for interactive logins with many untrusted users. Of course, > if/when we have scheduler support for keeping different users on separate > cores, this should be applied to sun4v as well. Actually, webhosting is probably the most common use of sun4v systems. As such, I'd expect that virtual hosting with large numbers of untrusted users running code on the same machine to be fairly common. -- Brooks --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHN8+NXY6L6fI4GtQRAnwJAJ91HiskMHTZlFkemjYwIKC/Y10j5gCeK/83 Z8HSY5NFvF7bOXBM6GFD4g0= =PSCY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/--