From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 31 11:43:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB5F1065686 for ; Mon, 31 May 2010 11:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from vlakno.cz (lev.vlakno.cz [77.93.215.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3275C8FC1B for ; Mon, 31 May 2010 11:43:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4119CB1A9; Mon, 31 May 2010 13:39:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vlakno.cz Received: from vlakno.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (lev.vlakno.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tCM1uGxzQ0eF; Mon, 31 May 2010 13:39:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vlk.vlakno.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1899CB1F9; Mon, 31 May 2010 13:39:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from rdivacky@localhost) by vlk.vlakno.cz (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o4VBdotq044958; Mon, 31 May 2010 13:39:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rdivacky) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 13:39:50 +0200 From: Roman Divacky To: Kostik Belousov Message-ID: <20100531113950.GA44552@freebsd.org> References: <20100529130240.GA99732@freebsd.org> <20100530135859.GI83316@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <508DA8CE-749A-46B4-AF0B-392DB08CBBCD@samsco.org> <20100531095617.GR83316@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20100531102452.GA33192@freebsd.org> <20100531104631.GT83316@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100531104631.GT83316@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [TESTING]: ClangBSD branch needs testing before the import to HEAD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 11:43:21 -0000 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > people are already experimenting with clang installed from ports, > > with gcc4.{3,4,5} from ports etc. by not importing clang we can > > maybe delay this a little but it's coming anyway. > I am pretty much fine and happy with people experimenting with clang > or any other compilers from ports, custom built, whatever. This is very > different from importing some compiler into base. See below about "signal= ". =20 what I wanted to say is that we can get problem reports from people using other compilers than our stock gcc even today. > > > Rather, I would consider the changes to ease the use of any external > > > compiler, from ports or whatever, bent into shape and kept up to date > > > with system progress very important, much less controversial and more > > > useful. Then, addicts of any kool-aid-compiler can drink their potion > > > without starting undesired relations. Unfortunately, this is not what > > > happen. > >=20 > > this is orthogonal to this. we as a project aim for delivering complete > > operating system and we just need a system compiler. gcc4.2.1 just > > cant serve us anymore, we need to do something now. > Please describe why gcc in base cannot serve us anymore while served up > to the minute I got your message. that was summarized in a beautiful way by Scott Long :) --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwDoAYACgkQLVEj6D3CBExdBgCfYpU9egEgprN6xFUD4sXb40Db y70An1rvnu0Hp2qxpwJ39KPHlyQKmyBg =aILZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB--