From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 2 06:55:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E65B16A41F for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 06:55:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0140343D45 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 06:55:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 8so6169nzo for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:55:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-mobile:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XVQgMa4Lx/hJdYMhF9fydVGLglpM5hewx4O4LkI69p7TLFmCqyvnFdkm7rQ7Q7iKEljZ+5ERrXshO5Y83m6ogYpgvvqm+YWWzeNqUnqD9cvkHGX3c2b5F4I0sCEJshqKdWRwNBlT8rCOFmffnpuuVMsR2zTAFXD2e4NAMzHr9o4= Received: by 10.36.67.13 with SMTP id p13mr4816798nza; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? ( [203.145.188.150]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 38sm253822nzk.2005.11.01.22.55.02; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:55:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <436862A3.8010804@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:24:27 +0530 From: Subhro Organization: IBM Advanced Career Education User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4.1 (Windows/20051006) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: In-Reply-To: X-Mobile: +919831064613 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Danny Pansters , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: New Logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 06:55:17 -0000 Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC sat at his 'puter and typed on 11/2/2005 11:55: > > On Nov 1, 2005, at 11:13 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >>> >>> And I am not trying to argue and make claims about how inexcusable it >>> is either. I merely pointed out to Ted that he is not in the FreeBSD >>> project and therefore does not have say. >>> >> >> Chad this is bullshit. First of all the ENTIRE point of this new >> logo is >> to increase USE of FreeBSD among the people that allegedly will not >> use it because of religious "devil" objections. IN SHORT, this logo >> is FOR THE USERS, NOT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE PROJECT. > > This is factually incorrect. > > The purpose of having a logo to replace the mascot as a logo was to > project a more professional image. And that is for the people in the > project who want to see FreeBSD taken more seriously as well as for > the users. Chad, I think you are not getting the right end of the story. The whole idea of having a logo is to promote a "company" so that anyone who sees a glimpse of it on a magazine/newspaper/television or alike would immediately know about what is being spoken about. Just for an example, consider you see the logo for Mercedes at a car fair. You would immediately look more attentively just because it is "MERCEDES". FreeBSD is NO company (atleast my understanding says so). Therefore logo need not be taken as seriously as it is being currently taken as. Now lets come to the mascot issue. Mascot, as per my understanding, is a graphic, object which is not of much commercial/promotional value. Generally mascots are just for fun. And you have agreed to the fact that Beastie does a good job as a mascot. So my inference would be, it is uncessary to create such a noise about logo. Regarding the professionalism, I would say, actions speak louder than words. I believe that is the reason why you and Greg and Ted and everyone else on this list exists in the FreeBSD world. 95% of all souls started off with some MS OS and later on shifted here. MS definitely has a pretty logo and thats all it has. If it was not just the logo then FreeBSD would die in the labs itself. Please correct me if you feel that I am wrong. Thanks S. -- ---------------+---------------------------------------------- | Subhro Sankha Kar \ / | GSM: +919831064613 -- Fax: +919831832913 \./ | MSN:subhro@subhro.org -- Yahoo: subhro82 (0Y0) | ICQ: 203567534 -- AIM: bsdboy1982 ooO--(_)--Ooo--+----------------------------------------------