From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 22 20:03:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4F516A417 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF1413C458 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C66317104; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l8MK3pJF022305; Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:03:51 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Marcel Moolenaar From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:46:13 MST." Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:03:51 +0000 Message-ID: <22304.1190491431@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Replacing/enhancing kernel printf() X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:03:48 -0000 In message , Marcel Moolenaar wri tes: >Agreed. We should not lump them together. However, they are >interrelated, so we cannot treat them independently either. >The switchboard approach was a way to 1) untangle the low- >level console from /dev/console and 2) allow everything to >be interconnected in some form of shape without backchannels >and/or hooks. I'm deeply sceptical, but if you think you know how to do it, in a way that still works in a panic context, by all means try it out. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.