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Date:      Sun, 08 Sep 2024 13:02:30 +0000
From:      "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: It's not Rust, it's FreeBSD (and LLVM)
Message-ID:  <202409081302.488D2UvB069580@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: <908e7c45fbcea4634427b8d065bb2f20@Leidinger.net>
References:  <202409031532.483FW0If007252@critter.freebsd.dk> <908e7c45fbcea4634427b8d065bb2f20@Leidinger.net>

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Alexander Leidinger writes:

I'm only going to answer two bits from your email:

> > The source tree became our citadel: "FreeBSD is src".  If something
> > was not in src, it was not FreeBSD.
>
> We are way past that too, FreeBSD is src+ports+docs(+community).

Nope.

The only reason the Rust advocates need to bring this up is /precisely/
because that is not the case.

If it were, they would just have added ports.

> In your world. And in the world of some other people. But there are a =

> lot of worlds where this is not true. I have systems which are updated =

> from src, and use only packages which are build locally.

Beware of selection bias.

"Somebody who compiles from src" is almost the literal definition of "comm=
itter".

In terms of all the FreeBSD running hardware out there, not even
one percent of one percent of the machines compile from src.

(Hint: Consumer electronics and server farms running FreeBSD)

Poul-Henning

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