From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Apr 1 12:39:42 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA28515 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 12:39:42 -0800 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA28505; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 12:39:16 -0800 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02706; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 22:37:14 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.9/8.6.9-s1) with UUCP id WAA02610; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 22:37:13 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA00824; Sat, 1 Apr 1995 22:32:59 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199504012032.WAA00824@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: MBONE interfaces and snazzy install tools. To: jkh@freefall.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 22:32:58 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de, joerg@sax.de, nate@trout.sri.mt.net, hackers@freefall.cdrom.com, install-geeks@FreeBSD.org, bde@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) In-Reply-To: <28288.796767941@freefall.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Apr 1, 95 12:25:41 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1457 Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > FreeBSD-2.0-RELEASE > > 1) normal crunch > > 2) add perl > > 3) add perl and substract sed, ed, grep, tar, ncftp > > > > uncompressed > > 1. 1114112 cpio_flp_1 > > 2. 1380352 cpio_flp_1_perl (+266240 bytes) > > 3. 1052672 cpio_flp_1_perl_short (-61440 bytes) > > > > compressed > > 1. 556835 cpio_flp_1 > > 2. 674193 cpio_flp_1_perl (+117358 bytes) > > 3. 518072 cpio_flp_1_perl_short (- 38763 bytes) > > Interesting figures. I assume you eliminate tar because of cpio? I > notice that we still have tar on our CPIO floppy (awful name, BTW - > it's time to change it!), do we need it ourselves or are we just being > nice? I would guess that we can and should eliminate the last of the > direct tar usage in the next release, deciding once and for all on > *one* archiver (either retain cpio or go to pax!). We should offer this to Bruce, too. He's the only one that has ever been looking into the awful minor # story. I'm quoting the above completely for him (and send it to him, too). > I'm assuming that perl will let you write the full compliment of mv, > cp, mkdir, .. blah .. "programs" as much shorter scripts? Even > crunched, we pay a hefty price for every exec we use! Don't get it, sorry. What's the difference between exec'ing perl, or exec'ing mv? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)