From owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 21 22:17:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1C516A4CE; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:17:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7BF43D46; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:17:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i9LMHGPf006226; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:17:16 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id i9LMHFfb006224; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:17:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:17:15 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20041021221715.GA4730@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20041021132145.65F415D04@ptavv.es.net> <20041021151914.GB31030@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20041021152920.GB1811@rogue.acs.lan> <20041021.150623.04864669.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041021.150623.04864669.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RCng/NTP Catch-22 X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:17:20 -0000 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 03:06:23PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20041021152920.GB1811@rogue.acs.lan> > Mike Makonnen writes: > : devfs can't be > : run before NETWORKING because it depends on at least one binary in > : /usr/sbin. See my patch and reply to Andre. >=20 > which one? devfs is in /sbin. It looks like chown. That one always suprises me even though I've hit it a number of times. I think this is because you can't safely do anything involving user names before you have working directory services and you can't be sure you have those before you have user. Hmm, I wonder what happens if you try to use chown when you have nss configured to use a directory, but don't have /usr mountd. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBeDVrXY6L6fI4GtQRAt+LAKDMbFYIt6X3/oGQdwWJkP/hCnML/ACcCp2Z hnM4BDZnAvx4SX7BeGCKCMU= =spuJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3--