From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 29 21:22:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CEE1065693 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8ED8FC19 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n9TLMD2Y060290; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:22:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:22:37 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: RW Message-ID: <20091029212237.GC72499@thought.org> References: <4AE5F897.3000103@rawbw.com> <200910271703.12828.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20091027213134.GA85815@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200910272046.00289.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20091028021417.GA93608@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <57d710000910271930u79b618f6m2bae6cf5c3c8fa83@mail.gmail.com> <4AE94914.2090905@locolomo.org> <877hue9o93.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20091029183435.5d6c3f0f@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091029183435.5d6c3f0f@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 23 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:22:44 -0000 On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 06:34:35PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:08:24 +0200 > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > What is nice about Sendmail today is that with minimal changes to a > > base FreeBSD installation (the rc.conf(5) variable called > > "sendmail_enable" and a SMART_HOST value in sendmail.mc) one can > > quickly get up and running with a local-only MTA that: > > > > sendmail_enable exposes sendmail to the world. You don't need > to set anything for a local relay. > > > > Having a local MTA, even in a SOHO network may be useful. Instead of > > going through the same hoops to configure 4 different email clients, > > you can set up the local MTA and tell all your local mailer programs > > "send any of your messages to `localhost' and they will be delivered > > as usual". > > It's also potentially a useful interface for spammers and viruses > that bypasses remote authentication, in particular if the MTA is > misconfigured as an open-relay. I may as well offer my dime's worth since I have used and fought-with sendmail sinve FreeBSD-2.0.5. I bought the book; it is super-dense. Still, sendmail, with it's horrible complexity and remaining bug [!] has knobs that its authors have forgotten. How about this: A small bunch of us get together and write up (say) 50 pages of readable material with examples. I'll be one of the few [3 to 5] writers. There very well may be better MTAs out there, but at least sendmail works! gary > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 7.31a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php