From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 7 12:28:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31C137B401 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 12:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net (stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA1643F85 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 2003 12:28:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0526.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.44.16] helo=mindspring.com) by stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 192cI8-0007Ip-00; Mon, 07 Apr 2003 12:28:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3E91CD6C.4B787365@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 12:11:40 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael W . Lucas" References: <20030407153600.GA51613@netpublishing.com> <20030407140012.A77600@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a440a141b729d935a8e85a653d7c985eb9666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: advocacy@freebsd.org cc: "Gregory A. Gilliss" Subject: Re: Look what a mess I made (was Brilliant and very useful...) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 19:28:37 -0000 "Michael W . Lucas" wrote: > On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 11:08:05AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote: > > Now, all I need is to figure out how to tweak sysinstall and add some > > "newbie" features that "do it all".. maybe a committer that knows the > > sysinstall gunk will see this.. > > We're all afraid of sysinstall. Sysinstall has eaten up any number of > developers and spit out their steaming bones. > > Seriously, patches are welcome. Please. Start with the author's "non-negotiable request #6", and realize that you have to provide "Boot Magic" and "Partition Magic" functionality, for free, and that even "Boot Magic" can't grok the NTFS on Windows XP, and you have to add a small (33M) FAT partition, which you have to tell it is going to be booted from, and then you still need something that can resize and relocate an NTFS, like the most recent version of "Partition Magic". Now realize that this operation can't be scripted, even if you license these tools themselves, from the vendor. PS: If people knew enough to be abe to rewrite the NTFS log files that they could resize an NTFS, without having to license code from Microsoft, don't you think NTFS would be mountable R/W in FreeBSD and Linux, without the restriction that you can only rewrite the contents of files, without resizin them, and without maintaining POSIX timestamps properly? -- Terry