From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 16:07:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CD92CD9 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 16:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from theravensnest.org (theraven.freebsd.your.org [216.14.102.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloud.theravensnest.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCE2A2B43 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 16:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.96] (cpc14-cmbg15-2-0-cust307.5-4.cable.virginm.net [82.26.1.52]) (authenticated bits=0) by theravensnest.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s53G77Kj070604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 3 Jun 2014 16:07:08 GMT (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD bug tracking moves from GNATS to Bugzilla From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: <538DE738.1000401@a1poweruser.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 17:07:01 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <89E5B418-8247-40AB-AB4D-C318F7391027@FreeBSD.org> References: <92E4FB10-DDC8-4B3E-9242-4E8494491630@FreeBSD.org> <538DBAEC.5060905@gmail.com> <538DE738.1000401@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd8 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 16:07:13 -0000 On 3 Jun 2014, at 16:18, Fbsd8 wrote: > This is the first I have seen this GNATS to Bugzilla subject = discussed. Then you have not been paying attention to any discussions for the past = few years. Here, for example, is the Bugmeister team's entry in the = status report from Q1 2013: = http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2013-01-2013-03.html#FreeBSD-Bug= meister-Team > GNATS has been working just fine for many years No it hasn't. It's the most cited reason for people not to report bugs = in FreeBSD and a lot of developers simply refuse to learn an antiquated = system. Compare the number of bugs closed in the last two days (since = Bugzilla went online) to the number in the last year and see. > , why the change to Bugzilla? For the reasons outlined on these wiki pages: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Bugtracking/BugRelocationPlan https://wiki.freebsd.org/Bugzilla > Who makes this kind of change in a vacuum? No one. The Bugmeister team made the change after spending several = *years* consulting with the developer community. > WHO AUTHORIZED THIS???? Core, after discussion with the developer community. > Why was the ports mailing list not included in this before now? Huh? The discussions have taken place at DevSummits, on mailing lists, = on IRC, and so on. Portmgr was involved in the migration process. = They've been summarised in status reports. The one I cited earlier = contains this: > As always, anybody interested in helping out with the PR queue is = welcome to join us in #freebsd-bugbusters on EFnet After many years of calls for help in this, people like Peter and Eitan = actually did the (massive amount of) work required to move us to a = modern bug-tracking system and *now* you choose to get involved, by = screaming abuse at them? =20 David