From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 1 13:34:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net (post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFD237B405 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 13:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.194.207] (helo=mailhost.raggedclown.net) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #2) id 16gufe-0002XP-00 for current@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 01 Mar 2002 21:34:30 +0000 Received: from angel.raggedclown.net (angel.raggedclown.intra [192.168.1.7]) by mailhost.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Mail Gateway [buffy]) with ESMTP id 6748013040 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 22:34:29 +0100 (CET) Received: by angel.raggedclown.net (Ragged Clown Host [angel], from userid 1005) id 6454522593; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 22:34:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 22:34:27 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: more -current testers Message-ID: <20020301213427.GA732@raggedclown.net> References: <20020219125011.A15871@blackhelicopters.org> <3C7364A5.4600F8F5@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C7364A5.4600F8F5@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 10:56:05AM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > Michael Lucas wrote: > > > > I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more > > -current testers. > > > > We all agree that the optimal thing would be to have hordes of very > > sophisticated users who can debug problems on their own and submit > > patches to fix all their issues. I would guess that we all also agree > > that that's not going to happen. > > > > It seems that the best we can hope for is to educate some of the > > braver users who are ready to take the next step and are willing to > > donate some time to us. > > > > I'm considering doing a series of articles on testing FreeBSD-current, > > including: setting up for kernel dumps, what to type at the debugger > > prompt after a crash, filing a decent bug report, what to expect from > > -current, and so on. I would also make it clear when to not bother > > filing a bug report (i.e., "You crashed, but had no WITNESS? Sorry, > > enable WITNESS & try again."). This would be (I suspect) three > > articles, running about a month and a half. > > > > The last time I checked, I get 12-15 thousand readers for each > > article. One half of one percent uptake would (hopefully) be quite a > > few bug reports. > Has some kind of conclusion been arrived at on this ? It has gone quiet since Feb 20th, I am definitely interested. -- Regards Cliff Sarginson -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message