From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 17:06:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A389616A402 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 17:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com (ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com [38.99.2.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E2613C455 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 17:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reed@reedmedia.net) Received: from pool-71-123-204-253.dllstx.fios.verizon.net ([71.123.204.253] helo=reedmedia.net) by ca.pugetsoundtechnology.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1HZUpF-0002Du-6F; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:28:41 -0700 Received: from reed@reedmedia.net by reedmedia.net with local (mailout 0.17) id 20005-1175790515; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:28:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 11:28:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeremy C. Reed" To: Kevin Kinsey In-Reply-To: <4615030B.5040809@daleco.biz> Message-ID: References: <7d4f41f50704050142v9c73a17tb1812f218ea4416@mail.gmail.com> <4615030B.5040809@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Victor Engmark Subject: Re: Should sudo be used? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:06:13 -0000 On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > I thought I might also mention a potential "sudo"-shortcoming. :-D > > See: > http://bsdwiki.reedmedia.net/wiki/Recognize_basic_recommended_access_methods.html > > Where I wrote about a "quoting problem" that occasionally confuses > newbs like me. Hi Kevin, I wasn't following this thread, but I read some of it now. I had a quick look at your text ... I think it would be easier to just use: echo 'natd_enable="YES"' | sudo tee -a /etc/rc.conf > Also, I don't speak for the BSD certification project, although I have > helped flesh out content on the wiki above. It appears that I changed > the wording from "using the possibly 3rd-party sudo" to "possibly using > the 3rd-party sudo" thinking that the objective's wording was in error, > when actually those statements imply different meaning. I'm copying > Jeremy Reed on this, who is closer to the Cert project and probably > *can* speak for them. I'd imagine I need to find some way to fix that, > because it sure seems to read as if *they* recommend using sudo.... ;-) The objective covers sudo no matter what. Our job task survey indicated that sudo is very important and essential for junior admins and intermediate/advanced admins. The "possibly" emphasis should be on "third-party". So the "Concept" on the wiki page is wrong, but the "More information" at the bottom is correct. Thanks for sending the email. Jeremy C. Reed p.s. And thank you Kevin for your work there. I have a lot of work to do and as you know the deadlines have past. If anyone else is interested in helping get this finished, please email me. No matter what I will publish the book (and then publish a new book when updated maybe 6 months or a year later).