From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 31 11:08:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D588A106567B; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45858FC13; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A9F221CC0AE; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:08:02 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Achim Patzner Message-ID: <20080731110802.GB28990@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <86y73j341e.fsf@ds4.des.no> <86bq0ftjf6.fsf@ds4.des.no> <8C2BF4B9-14CD-40EA-B22E-DBB7060BFE46@bnc.net> <3A7C430E-AA1C-4CF3-88F5-F7A0EBE3273A@bnc.net> <20080731100821.GA15213@eos.sc1.parodius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-hackers , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:08:02 -0000 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:48:02PM +0200, Achim Patzner wrote: > I don't care. I can see that; thanks for summing it up. >> The amount of rhetoric in these two paragraphs is amazing; I literally >> cannot tell if you're trolling with anti-FreeBSD propaganda, or if >> you're trolling with pro-FreeBSD propaganda. Congratulations, you've >> confused at least one reader. > > Wrong on both counts. I'm just using the appropriate tools for the jobs > that need to be done. And on the desktop FreeBSD just plain sucks in > comparison to Mac OS. And after all, Mac users need FreeBSD - who else > should provide them with all the nice things from ipfw to the user land? > Would you really expect Apple to do it all on its own? > > Face it: The real difference between servers and desktops is the "who > has to bend over"-question. Servers are adapted to the software they > are going to run while on "personal computers" the software has to adapt > to the machine ("I want that shiny Sony. I don't care if the hardware > sucks, it's beautiful."). And Chuck is quite definitely lacking at > bending > over... You just did it again -- anti-FreeBSD propaganda and pro-FreeBSD propaganda in a single paragraph, followed by an oddly-skewed server-to-desktop comparison, something about computer cosmetics, then a strange comment about the beastie/Chuck which seems to be negative but could be positive depending on how you look at it. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |