From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 4 21:11:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5299A1504F for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 21:11:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA01126; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:39:46 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id NAA07280; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:39:44 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19990405133944.Y2142@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:39:44 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, Darren Pilgrim Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Installation Guide Project [Was: Re: FreeBSD Adovcacy] References: <3706CA33.986B5C15@uswest.net>; <19990405115047.Q2142@lemis.com> <19990405035957.DOSU5752963.mta2-rme@wocker> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990405035957.DOSU5752963.mta2-rme@wocker>; from Dan Langille on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 03:58:55PM +1200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 5 April 1999 at 15:58:55 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > On 5 Apr 99, at 11:50, Greg Lehey wrote: > >>>> Stay the course, Darren. Talk to the -newbies and ignore the crabby, >>>> jaded ones who've forgotten what it's like not to have a clue about >>>> BSD. :-D >>> >>> I plan on soliciting for volunteers in -newbies. I just want to have >>> some kind of a webpage up for them to read before waving the Uncle Sam >>> posters. >> >> It seems fashionable at the moment to believe that newbies can do >> things that experienced people can't, simply because they're closer to the >> problem. I have yet to see a really successful document come out of this >> approach. I've found it a lot easier to let experienced people write the >> documentation and have newbies review it to death. > > But that's what is proposed. Letting newbies review it. Ah, then I misunderstood. > As for successful documents, and this is tongue in cheek for the > humourless, some people, myself included, consider my website a > success. And whilst I am a newbie with respect to FreeBSD, I'm not > new to the computer field. I think it's horses for courses. Yes, I agree, your web site is a success. But it's not exactly documentation, at least not the way I understand that Darren wants to do it. > I'm all for experienced people writing documents. But, clearly, > nobody has stepped forward before this IGP was started. Otherwise, > we'd already have the IG. Right. I had intended to overhaul exactly this part of the handbook, but beyond writing a "what to download" section for review far too long ago now (http://www.lemis.com/handbook/what-to-download.html), I haven't done anything. As I said before, I'm not discussing whether it should be done, just how. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message