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questions-digest          Sunday, 18 February 1996      Volume 01 : Number 524

In this issue:
Error running FIPS, Last cylinder not free...
Error when compiling
Re: CTM files
printing
Hard drive magically doubled??
Re: Error when compiling
Re: Hard drive magically doubled??
Re: printing
booting from primary wd on wdc1
Re: CTM files
Re: Hard drive magically doubled??
Usernames longer than 8 chars?
Re: tc* questions...
Re: COM ports and fast modems
Re: Hard drive magically doubled??
Re: printing
sendmail questions
adding a disk
Re: Crack freeBSD password file
Test message.
Re: NexGen CPU?

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From: Pete Gallo <apexlate@digital.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:14:04 -0500
Subject: Error running FIPS, Last cylinder not free...

I degragged my disk (running Windows 95, it is compressed) and re-booted 
under MS-DOS, hoever FIPS won't run says there is an error the last 
cynlder isn't free, then exits.  Any help would be appreciated.

------------------------------

From: gregkopp@en.com (Greg Kopp)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:18:52 -0500
Subject: Error when compiling

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When I attempt to re-compile the FreeBSD Kernel, I get the following error:

cc -o -w -w ..... vers.c
loading kernel
kern_sysctl.o: undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text segment
*** Error code 1

I've attached my configuration file (copied from GENERIC and modified) to
this message.

Thanks for your help.



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#
# GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks
#
#	$Id:
GENERIC,v 1.46.2.6 1995/10/25 17:29:51 jkh Exp
$
#

machine		"i386"
cpu		"I386_CPU"
cpu		"I486_CPU"
cpu		"I586_CPU"
ident		
TJP
maxusers	10

options		MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87
emulation
options		INET			#InterNETworking
options		FFS			#Berkeley Fast
Filesystem
options		NFS			#Network Filesystem
options		MSDOSFS			#MSDOS
Filesystem
options		"CD9660"		#ISO 9660
Filesystem
options		PROCFS			#Process
filesystem
options		"COMPAT_43"		#Compatible with BSD
4.3
options		"SCSI_DELAY=15"		#Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI
device
options		BOUNCE_BUFFERS		#include support for DMA bounce
buffers
options		UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the
console

options		SYSVSHM
options		SYSVSEM
options		SYSVMSG

config		kernel	
root on wd0 

controller	isa0
controller	pci0

controller	fdc0	at isa? port
"IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr
disk		fd0	at fdc0 drive
0
disk		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1
tape		ft0	at fdc0 drive 2

controller	wdc0	at
isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr
disk		wd0	at wdc0 drive
0
disk		wd1	at wdc0 drive 1

controller	wdc1	at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq
15 vector wdintr
disk		wd2	at wdc1 drive 0
disk		wd3	at wdc1 drive
1

#options         ATAPI   #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus
#device
wcd0    #IDE
CD-ROM

controller	ncr0
#controller	ahc0

#controller	bt0	at isa? port
"IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr
#controller	uha0	at isa? port "IO_UHA0"
bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr
#controller	ahc1	at isa? bio irq ? vector
ahcintr
#controller	ahb0	at isa? bio irq ? vector
ahbintr
#controller	aha0	at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector
ahaintr
#controller	aic0    at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector
aicintr
#controller	nca0	at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector
ncaintr
#controller	nca1	at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector
ncaintr
#controller	sea0	at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000
vector
seaintr

controller	scbus0

device		sd0

device		st0

device		cd0	#Only
need one of these, the code dynamically grows

device		wt0	at isa? port
0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr
device		mcd0	at isa? port 0x300 bio irq
10 vector mcdintr
device		mcd1	at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector
mcdintr

controller	matcd0	at isa? port 0x230 bio

device		scd0	at isa?
port 0x230 bio

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO
console
device		sc0	at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr
# Enable
this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console
driver
#device		vt0	at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector
pcrint
#options		"PCVT_FREEBSD=210"	# pcvt running on FreeBSD
2.1
#options		XSERVER			# include code for XFree86

#device		npx0	at isa?
port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr

device		sio0	at isa? port "IO_COM1"
tty irq 4 vector siointr
device		sio1	at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3
vector siointr
#device		sio2	at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector
siointr
#device		sio3	at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector
siointr

device		lpt0	at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector
lptintr
#device		lpt1	at isa? port? tty
#device		lpt2	at isa? port?
tty
#device		mse0	at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr

# Order is
important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize
# this list of
network interfaces until the probes have been fixed.
# Right now it appears
that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See
# revision 1.20 of this
file.
#device de0
device ed0 at isa? port 0x340 net irq 11 vector
edintr
#device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq  5 iomem 0xd8000 vector
edintr
#device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq  7 iomem 0xd0000 vector
ieintr
#device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr
#device ix0
at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector
ixintr
#device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector
le_intr
#device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector
lncintr
#device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector
lncintr
#device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector
zeintr
#device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector
zpintr

pseudo-device	loop
pseudo-device	ether
pseudo-device	log
pseudo-devi
ce	sl	1
# ijppp uses tun instead of ppp
device
#pseudo-device	ppp	1
pseudo-device	tun	1
pseudo-device	pty	16
pseudo-
device	gzip		# Exec gzipped a.out's
pseudo-device   speaker



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- --
******************************************************************
*             Greg Kopp - Garfield Heights, Ohio                 *
*  Gun Owner-Ham Radio Operator-Model Railroader-Graphic Artist  *
******************************************************************



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From: Steve Emmert <steve@emmert.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 06:19:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: CTM files

On Sun, 18 Feb 1996, Melvin Deloyd Robinson wrote:

> Where are the CTM files  src-2.1.0031.gz and src-2.1.0032.gz on the FTP
> site?  I'm afraid to upgrade my source tree without them and noticed that
> the files jump from src-2.1.0030.gz to src-2.1.0033.gz.  The directory that
> I'm talking about is pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/ctm
> 
> Melvin
> 
Hi Melvin,

They are in /incoming along with 0034 to 0038, I asked this same question 
last week 8). They really should be put in /ctm (hint - hint). Last time
I checked ftp.freebsd.org it was down 8(. 

- --Steve

Steve Emmert
steve@emmert.com
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Powered by FreeBSD -- The Daemon is FREE!!!


------------------------------

From: Adam Mitchell <adamm@visual.is.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:31:22 +0000
Subject: printing

what do people use to format print jobs for canon bubble jets?

------------------------------

From: Keith Leonard <keithl@gil.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:47:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Hard drive magically doubled??

Any body have any idea why when I did an 'df' I got a reading of 103000 
blocks used and 302000 available giving me 25% (approx.)used  - This was 
yesterday. This morning I ran pkg_manage and added latex. latter I 
decided that it wasn't necessary and ran pkg_manage to deinstall it. When 
I ran 'df' about an hour latter I got 205000 blocks used 609000 blocks 
free and of course still only approx. 25% used??????

Now I'm concerned that something else may not be reported right to the 
system.

Any ideas??

Keith		
- ----------------------------------------------------
common sense and common courtesy - aren't, are they?

keithl@gil.net

adolesent flamers need not reply.

------------------------------

From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 23:57:49 +0100
Subject: Re: Error when compiling

On Feb 18, 17:18, Greg Kopp wrote:
} Subject: Error when compiling
} 
} 
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} Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
} 
} When I attempt to re-compile the FreeBSD Kernel, I get the following error:
} 
} cc -o -w -w ..... vers.c
} loading kernel
} kern_sysctl.o: undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text segment
} *** Error code 1
} 
} I've attached my configuration file (copied from GENERIC and modified) to
} this message.

} #device		npx0	at isa?

Remove the '#' and everything will be well again :)

npx0 is mandatory !

Regards, STefan
- -- 
 Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen		Tel:	+49 221 4706021
 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln	FAX:	+49 221 4705160

==============================================================================
 http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se			  <se@ZPR.Uni-Koeln.DE>

------------------------------

From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:16:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Hard drive magically doubled??

Keith Leonard wrote:
> 
> 
> Any body have any idea why when I did an 'df' I got a reading of 103000 
> blocks used and 302000 available giving me 25% (approx.)used  - This was 
> yesterday. This morning I ran pkg_manage and added latex. latter I 
> decided that it wasn't necessary and ran pkg_manage to deinstall it. When 
> I ran 'df' about an hour latter I got 205000 blocks used 609000 blocks 
> free and of course still only approx. 25% used??????

	the two sets of numbers are about 2:1 ratio.  df will report in
	either 512 byte blocks or 1kB units depending upon command line
	flags (-k) and enviroment variabless (BLOCKSIZE=1k)

	could be the source of your confusion

------------------------------

From: "Binh Do" <binhdo@cs.ubc.ca>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 15:17:03 -0800
Subject: Re: printing

On Feb 18,  5:31pm, Adam Mitchell wrote:
> Subject: printing
 ": "what do people use to format print jobs for canon bubble jets?
>-- End of excerpt from Adam Mitchell

Install apsfilter-4.9.3.tar.gz (it will install ghostscript and so on), then
choose the driver, BJ10e or BJ200, depending on your printer.

Good luck



- -- 

Binh Do
Department Of Computer Science
University Of BC, Canada

------------------------------

From: "Peter Stubbs" <peters@staidan.qld.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 09:28:45 -1000
Subject: booting from primary wd on wdc1

I've been trying to install freeBSD at home for some time now. I have 
OS/2 on the primary drive on the 1st hard disk controller. The second 
disk is on the second controller, and has a 50M DOS partition (for 
games) and 350M for FBSD.

When I install from floppy all goes well. I select wd2 for the 
install, then I build a new kernel from the shell on F4. 

At boot time it claims it's booting from wd1a, yet at the drive 
detection time it finds the drive & calls it wd2. Then panics when it 
can't mount root.

I have tried putting "root on wd1", and on wd2 in the new kernel.
The /etc/fstab entries all point to slices on wd2. 

I'm using the default boot manager, I can't remember its name. It has 
the F1  F5 style options.

Any ideas?


Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS.
ph +61-07-3379-9911, fax +61-07-3379-9432

------------------------------

From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:35:30 -0600
Subject: Re: CTM files

Steve wrote:
>On Sun, 18 Feb 1996, Melvin Deloyd Robinson wrote:
>
>> Where are the CTM files  src-2.1.0031.gz and src-2.1.0032.gz on the FTP
>> site?  I'm afraid to upgrade my source tree without them and noticed that
>> the files jump from src-2.1.0030.gz to src-2.1.0033.gz.  The directory that
>> I'm talking about is pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/ctm
>>
>> Melvin
>>
>Hi Melvin,
>
>They are in /incoming along with 0034 to 0038, I asked this same question
>last week 8). They really should be put in /ctm (hint - hint). Last time
>I checked ftp.freebsd.org it was down 8(.

They were in the process of getting moved when it went down.
If you need them before ftp.freebsd.org comes back, they are available at
the source (ftp.dataplex.net)
However, it is sometimes difficult to get in. Let me know if you need a
special password to bypass the quota on anonymous.



------------------------------

From: "Mike Pritchard" <mpp@mpp.minn.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 17:38:17 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Hard drive magically doubled??

Keith Leonard wrote:
> 
> 
> Any body have any idea why when I did an 'df' I got a reading of 103000 
> blocks used and 302000 available giving me 25% (approx.)used  - This was 
> yesterday. This morning I ran pkg_manage and added latex. latter I 
> decided that it wasn't necessary and ran pkg_manage to deinstall it. When 
> I ran 'df' about an hour latter I got 205000 blocks used 609000 blocks 
> free and of course still only approx. 25% used??????
> 
> Now I'm concerned that something else may not be reported right to the 
> system.
> 
> Any ideas??

Do you have the BLOCKSIZE environment variable set?  See "man environ"
for more information.
- -- 
Mike Pritchard
mpp@minn.net
"Go that way.  Really fast.  If something gets in your way, turn"

------------------------------

From: Bernardo Lam <blam@atgnet.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 18:50:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Usernames longer than 8 chars?

Is there anyway to get usernames longer than 8 chars?.

I need to share a BSD/OS password file with FreeBSD 2.1R. 

Thanks,

Bernardo

------------------------------

From: "Lenzi, Sergio" <lenzi@cwbone.bsi.com.br>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 21:24:42 -0300 (EST)
Subject: Re: tc* questions...

On Sun, 18 Feb 1996, Brian J. McGovern wrote:

> 
> I have been playing with tcgetattr and tcsetattr with some reasonable
> success. However, I'm now curious how to do it the "right" way.
> 
> What flags should I set to put a terminal in such a mode so that 
> characters aren't echo'ed, and characters typed are returned
> immediately? I've played with ECHO, CLOCAL, and ICANON to some success. 

use the c_lflags &= (~ECHO | ~ICANON)
        c_cc[VMIN]=1;
	c_cc[V_TIME]=1;
after...
	tcsetattr(file_handler,TCSANOW,&termios)

I prefer:

	if (fork() == 0) {
		execlp("stty","stty","-echo",
			"-icanon",
			"time","1",
			"min","1",
			"clocal",NULL);
	}
	wait(NULL);
	...
	...



> 
> What flags should I set for a modem for a "normal dialout"? 
> ie - port doesn't echo (the device will echo the characters)
>    - characters should be read() immediately (again, no waiting for CR)
> 
- -echo, -icanon,min 1, time 1.

> Any changes for inbound calls?

I use the ttydx device with a direct rs232 cable and a modem initialized 
with:
at&c1&d2s0=1&w 


> 
> Lastly, is there any way to directly look at some of the line signals
(CD,DTR,
> etc)? 
> 
there is an ioctl in the termios.h....




------------------------------

From: "Lenzi, Sergio" <lenzi@cwbone.bsi.com.br>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 21:29:41 -0300 (EST)
Subject: Re: COM ports and fast modems

On Sun, 18 Feb 1996, Greenstein Jacob wrote:

> Dear sirs,
> 
> I would be very grateful if you can explain me the following.
> Is it possible to use ports COM with baud rate >57600 with standard
> FreeBSD slattach/tty drivers (version 2.1.0-RELEASE)? 
> 

I use it regurlary in a gateway ,printer server and name server routing 
from ethernet to slip on com2 at 57600kbps and a pair of AT&T paradyne modens.
It is fast and reliable.

------------------------------

From: Keith Leonard <keithl@gil.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 19:38:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Hard drive magically doubled??

Thanks,
Must have inadvertanly commented out the line in .cshrc about BLOCKSIZE 
about 3 this morning. Really feel like a dummy. Much thanks to all.

Keith

On Sun, 18 Feb 1996, Mike Pritchard wrote:

> Keith Leonard wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Any body have any idea why when I did an 'df' I got a reading of 103000 
> > blocks used and 302000 available giving me 25% (approx.)used  - This was 
> > yesterday. This morning I ran pkg_manage and added latex. latter I 
> > decided that it wasn't necessary and ran pkg_manage to deinstall it. When 
> > I ran 'df' about an hour latter I got 205000 blocks used 609000 blocks 
> > free and of course still only approx. 25% used??????
> > 
> > Now I'm concerned that something else may not be reported right to the 
> > system.
> > 
> > Any ideas??
> 
> Do you have the BLOCKSIZE environment variable set?  See "man environ"
> for more information.
> -- 
> Mike Pritchard
> mpp@minn.net
> "Go that way.  Really fast.  If something gets in your way, turn"
> 

------------------------------

From: John Brann <jbrann@panix.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 20:05:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: printing

Adam Mitchell wrote...
> what do people use to format print jobs for canon bubble jets?
> 
Ghostscript.  I have a Canon BJ-10e (1991 vintage) which works perfectly
using the ghostscript bj10e driver.

John
- -- 
Beavis and Butt-Head;  Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s.

------------------------------

From: David Hovemeyer <daveho@roo>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 10:19:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: sendmail questions

Howdy sendmail gurus,

This is at least sort of FreeBSD-specific.  I am sending mail
from a FreeBSD box that is intermittently connected to an ISP
that dynamically assigns IP addresses.  When my mail goes out,
I would like sendmail to change the address in the "From:"
header from "daveho@roo" (my local username and hostname)
to "Hovemeyer_D@mediasoft.net" (the address of my POP3 account
at the ISP).

Right now I am using a "Reply-to:" header to at least insure that
replies come back to the right place, but I would like to have
the "real" headers be correct instead.

I looked at the sendmail FAQ, which mentions the "user database"
feature of sendmail to allow rewriting of From: headers.  Is
this feature enabled in FreeBSD's sendmail?  (I am using 2.1.0R.)
I tried the canned example in the FAQ, and it seems to have no effect.

Assuming that I can use the user database, will it do what I want,
maybe in conjunction with the "DMsome.domain" masquerading feature?

Any insight appreciated.

Dave
- --
"Everybody dies frustrated and sad, and that is beautiful."
	-- They Might Be Giants


------------------------------

From: Adam Mitchell <adamm@visual.is.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 20:22:22 +0000
Subject: adding a disk

I have a blank IDE drive (wd1).  I want to use 96MB for SWAP and the
rest as /mnt_whatever.  How do I initialize this blank disk?  Here is
my current "/etc/fstab" and "fdisk wd1"

Thanks VERY much.

AM



/dev/wd0a                       /               ufs     rw 1 1
/dev/wd0s3b                     none            swap    sw 0 0
proc                            /proc           procfs  rw 0 0
/dev/wd0s1                      /dos            msdos   rw



******* Working on device /dev/rwd1 *******
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=2100 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

 Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=2100 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 0 is:
<UNUSED>
The data for partition 1 is:
<UNUSED>
The data for partition 2 is:
<UNUSED>
The data for partition 3 is:
<UNUSED>

------------------------------

From: Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 12:46:09 +1030 (CST)
Subject: Re: Crack freeBSD password file

Andre' Carvalho stands accused of saying:
> 
> I would like to know if I can use a program like "crack" to try to break =
> my users' passwords. This is very important because I do not want to =
> have security holes in this machine.
> 
> I tried a lot, but it says that the crypt() function is not standard and =
> that the encrypted passwords are too long.

You will have to modify the 'crack' program to understand the longer MD5
encrypted passwords that FreeBSD uses.  I would expect that this should be
a relatively straightforward task, but I'm not familiar with 'crack'.

Anyone else done this already and can supply Andre' with the diffs?

> Andre' Esteves de Carvalho

- -- 
]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au    [[
]] Genesis Software                     genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au   [[
]] High-speed data acquisition and      (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496       [[
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------------------------------

From: Pete Gallo <apexlate@digital.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:06:26 -0500
Subject: Test message.

Did this make it to the list, please disregard...

From: Pete Gallo, ISSC Project Executive
Custom Open Systems, Tampa Florida
(813)-878-5572
Mail: APEXLATE@DIGITAL.NET
"If you are under control you're going too slow."  -Parnelli Jones


------------------------------

From: dkelly@hiwaay.net (David Kelly)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:01:46 -0600
Subject: Re: NexGen CPU?

Gary Roberts <wangel@wgrobez1.remote.louisville.edu> replied:

>The NExtGEN cpu are junk.  They are faster in some cases then the intel,
>but they do not have an floating point chips or whatnot, you have to use
>'emulators' that emulate floating point processes.

FPU NexGens have been available for the past couple of months. Non-FPU
NexGens perform sometimes a bit better, sometimes a bit worse, than
comparable Pentium CPUs on non-FPU tasks. I don't have a NexGen with FPU so
I don't know how well it works.

FreeBSD 2.1R runs just fine on my NexGen PCI-90. The standard FreeBSD FPU
emulator also works fine but it *is* slower than Christmas. Otherwise my
NexGen is quite a screamer and has totally lived up to my expectations. The
term "junk" used above is totally out of place.

One rainy day I plan on testing the Pentium-specific optimizations in gcc
and see if they help a NexGen.

- --
David Kelly N4HHE,   n4hhe@amsat.org,    dkelly@hiwaay.net
=============================================================
To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk.
                - Thomas Edison



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To: freebsd-questions-digest@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   questions-digest V1 #524
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