From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 18 15:41:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20475 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:41:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20470 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:41:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA26845; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:40:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:40:22 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Brett Glass cc: Mike Smith , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Network adapters: Technical issues In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981217004147.066e2c30@mail.lariat.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Seriously now, these old machines can turn into money holes real quick... I fixed a friend's $25 garage sale special, but every time I went to try and 'upgrade' something, the price was just ridiculous. I think you'll find that the cost of oddball parts is rising. For example, try finding an ISA video card with 1M or more of ram for less than $60... Meanwhile you can get a PCI card for $30 and an AGP for $40. You'll run into the same trap sooner or later with your quest for 100Mb ISA cards. We can still get an Asus P55TP4 mobo w/4 PCI slots for about $60 and a Pentium 133 for about the same. It's AT form factor, takes an AT keyboard, AT power supply, and still has ISA slots. You might find yourself paying nearly the same price for your ISA card when you find it. Factor in the time you spend on this as well... Good luck, Charles --- Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Brett Glass wrote: > At 11:29 PM 12/16/98 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > >If I knew of any ISA 100Mbps adapters, don't you think I'd have > >mentioned them? If I say "I don't believe we do", then I damn well > >mean it! > > Really... you don't have to shout! It's just that the cost of an > upgrade would be significantly more than the $150 it would take > to replace the motherboard. There's also RAM.... Those systems > use older SIMMs. And a new motherboard is likely to be in the ATX > form factor; those 486es use the AT form factor. So between the > case and the RAM and the motherboard and the CPU and the keyboard > (yep, the old ones use AT, not PS/2, keyboards) we're almost talking > about throwing out the box. > > --Brett > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message