From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Tue Mar 10 13:30:00 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB3C2639BF for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 13:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48cGD76fWDz4Ym7 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 13:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C95572639B4; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 13:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: x11@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D212639B3 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 13:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from out.migadu.com (out.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.migadu.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48cGD52y3Lz4Yfp for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 13:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: (Migadu outbound); Tue, 10 Mar 2020 13:29:54 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (winnie.ispras.ru [83.149.199.91]) by out.migadu.com (Haraka/2.8.16) with ESMTPSA id 3351AA44-5F2C-4A4A-A86B-2F241A51D859.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Tue, 10 Mar 2020 13:29:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 13:29:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Greg V To: Robert Huff Cc: Robert Huff , x11@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <4f9b0c60-af37-4850-8907-be71a2749aa5@localhost> In-Reply-To: <24166.50597.388983.184827@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <24166.14394.893997.957448@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <07efa121-fa59-4e90-a519-03f6d6e9def9@localhost> <24166.50597.388983.184827@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Subject: Re: drm-legacy-kmod vs. drm-kmod MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Correlation-ID: <4f9b0c60-af37-4850-8907-be71a2749aa5@localhost> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=2GtJXEeBP6GdRMy6F8nsDhhL8opjHZ+PUkkPJVTEFcA=; c=relaxed/simple; d=unrelenting.technology; h=from:subject:date:to; s=default; b=iXnO62ejevTFKbDYk43fHxN9hUs7QrmvdJg+Xh6ucSLWhoEzW01ArfRXUU8h2GN9jy+0HVRyLx7dNdLqdZTa4nZHwhm1ZA5xqgjuCnNa969xHb7/tke1yBcgropXdD93Rn3PRWcQr87WkCDmWnW1A/V16K/xhvbX4cbP5uhgRRY= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48cGD52y3Lz4Yfp X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=unrelenting.technology header.s=default header.b=iXnO62ej; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=unrelenting.technology; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of greg@unrelenting.technology designates 91.121.223.63 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=greg@unrelenting.technology X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.35 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[unrelenting.technology:s=default]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:91.121.223.63]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; IP_SCORE(-1.85)[ip: (-9.79), ipnet: 91.121.0.0/16(-1.53), asn: 16276(2.06), country: FR(0.00)]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[unrelenting.technology:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[unrelenting.technology,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[63.223.121.91.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 13:30:00 -0000 Mar 10, 2020 1:39:37 AM Robert Huff : > Greg V writes: > > > No GPUs should require legacy. > > I have an older machine with an on-board ATI Radeon HD3300. Have you tried modern radeonkms on it (from drm-kmod not legacy)? > According to the "FreeBSD Graphics Blog" on github, that line > (for AMD) is the HD7000 (family) chipset. "HD7000 family" is kind of a meaningless marketing term: it includes TeraScale 2, GCN 1 and GCN 2. An HD 7450/HD 8450/R5 235 is the same (only slightly updated) TeraScale/R600 architecture as your HD 3300. AMD has been rebranding the same cards for many many years, old high end becoming new low end :)