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Date:      Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:01:30 +0100
From:      Stijn Hoop <stijn@win.tue.nl>
To:        Scott Mitchell <scott+freebsd@fishballoon.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Has anybody EVER successfully recovered VINUM?
Message-ID:  <20041208120130.GY39558@pcwin002.win.tue.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20041208115445.GB12830@tuatara.fishballoon.org>
References:  <20041208054552.71553.qmail@web50708.mail.yahoo.com> <20041208100905.GA12684@tuatara.fishballoon.org> <20041208105255.GW39558@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20041208113013.GA12830@tuatara.fishballoon.org> <20041208113427.GX39558@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20041208115445.GB12830@tuatara.fishballoon.org>

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On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 11:54:45AM +0000, Scott Mitchell wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 12:34:27PM +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote:
> > I'm just saying that in my case it didn't work out well. As with any other
> > advice, it might just work for you :)
> 
> Sure, I'm definitely not disagreeing with anything you're saying here.  I'm
> inclined to think I have just been lucky the few times I've had to do this
> in the past, and to maximise my good luck I should take the same
> precautions that you do in the future :-)

Oops, I think I didn't exactly get my point across, which was 'it may very
well be that your way works for you, which is great'. I certainly was not
trying to sound condescending (I think is the right word?).

> I haven't played with gvinum yet either, but I'll probably be looking at a
> hardware solution (FreeBSD-supported hardware RAID or network-attached
> storage appliances) when the time comes to replace these servers.  Vinum
> has been excellent, but I always find it really traumatic to deal with,
> mostly because I have to touch it every 6 months at most.  There's always a
> frantic hour re-reading the documentation, followed by a lot of "I really,
> really, hope this works" moments before hitting Enter :-(

Yeah, I certainly recognize those moments. Having gotten through a lot of
trouble in the last few months did do some good in that regard, I know my way
around vinum a bit more. But unfortunately I have heard some horror stories
with hardware RAID as well, so I'm staying with vinum in the forseeable future
(at least I can help to find bugs there unlike firmware bugs in a PCI
controller card).

Cheers,

--Stijn

-- 
"What if everything you see is more than what you see -- the person next to
you is a warrior and the space that appears empty is a secret door to another
world? What if something appears that shouldn't? You either dismiss it, or you
accept that there is much more to the world than you think. Perhaps it really
is a doorway, and if you choose to go inside, you'll find many unexpected
things."
		-- Shigeru Miyamoto

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