From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Aug 28 03:43:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00140 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 03:43:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00134 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 03:43:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id MAA17663; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:42:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:42:42 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: Curt Sampson , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FFS questions References: <199808272300.XAA00594@word.smith.net.au> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which I am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 28 Aug 1998 12:42:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: Mike Smith's message of "Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:00:43 +0000" Message-ID: Lines: 23 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id DAA00135 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith writes: > Thanks, but I've already proven my manhood by lugging an RA81 (in a 4" > cabinet) upstairs myself; I don't need to do it again. Actually, come > to think of it, aren't surviving storage options for those systems > getting a bit thin on the ground? Hmmm... is that the 600 MB 8.5 ms average seek disk they sold with the MicroVAX? Some friends of mine recently acquired a 16 year old MicroVAX in working order (except for one disk with a dead PSU) with two RA81 disks. They (four people) had to remove the disks to even be able to lift the MicroVAX (using straps) and IIRC none of them could carry a disk by himself either. The problem they face now is cooling. Even with one disk out the heat this thing generates is unbearable (we're talking high-eighties- low-nineties room temperature) Oh, and they have a PDP-11 too, and a Flipper (I bet none of you have even heard of those, much less of DolphinOS, except tegge) DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message