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Date:      Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:53:53 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Ray Kohler <ataraxia@cox.net>
Cc:        kris@obsecurity.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG, mark@grondar.org
Subject:   Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper
Message-ID:  <20021108215352.GA26821@rot13.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <200211082122.gA8LMO1a080022@arkadia.nv.cox.net>
References:  <20021108210249.GA26345@rot13.obsecurity.org> <200211082122.gA8LMO1a080022@arkadia.nv.cox.net>

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On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 04:22:24PM -0500, Ray Kohler wrote:
> > From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov  8 16:15:05 2002
> > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:02:58 -0800
> > From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
> > To: Ray Kohler <ataraxia@cox.net>
> > Cc: kris@obsecurity.org, mark@grondar.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: perl5.6.1 wrapper
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 06:54:37AM -0500, Ray Kohler wrote:
> >
> > > Then we're back to the problem of there being a complete stale perl in
> > > the base system after a 4.X->5.X upgrade, but then, I've always thought
> > > that "clean out the cruft" ought to be a mandatory step in upgrading.
> >
> > Yes, it's already a mandatory step (remove old includes, or you can't
> > build C++ programs).
> 
> I mean *all* the cruft -- old modules and config files, deprecated binaries
> and man pages, even old shlibs if it's safe.

I agree with you, and I was giving an example that a lesser form of
this is already required during the upgrade.

It would be VERY useful if someone could develop a script to do this
(e.g. install various versions of 4.x and do an upgrade, then collect
a complete list of all the stale files).

Kris

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