From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jan 11 16:20:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25203 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:20:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25196 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:20:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA98154; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:20:04 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901120020.QAA98154@apollo.backplane.com> To: Andreas Braukmann Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What are the advantages of ELF kernels? Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Hi Matt, : :(slightly off-topic ...) : :On Mon, Jan 11, 1999 at 01:24:01PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: :> I always like to say: ELF is on par with the Amiga's object/link/binary :> format. It's nice to see UNIX finally catch up. ! :I've been wondering all the time, if you might really be _that_ :Matt Dillon, who gave this awesome kick-ass editor to the amiga-community :in the late eighties? : :-Andreas One word! http://www.backplane.com/dice/ Which just points to www.obviously.com, which is hosted on one of my BEST accounts. Hmm.. speaking of which, I should probably shift that domain over to backplane, I don't know how long the account will last now that I'm leaving BEST. Er, BEST/Hiway. Er. Verio. Ugh. I haven't worked on DICE much for a couple of years, but as my last major act I did fix it up so it could be compiled up on a UNIX box (aka linux, FreeBSD) and used as 68K C cross compiler -- everything except the FP support. I still use it for embedded 68000 work. It won't generate op codes for higher-end cpus and can't handle huge structures due to the way the code generator works (it's in love with 68K 16 bit register relative instructions), but it is still a nice piece of work. The source is available free now too so if you ever wanted to know what the insides of DICE looked like, you can pop it off the site and look at it. It's some of the best code I had ever written. GCC would probably do a better job even for embedded stuff now-a-days, but DICE generated enough income in its shareware days for me to help get BEST.COM started 4 years ago. -Matt Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet Communications & God knows what else. (Please include original email in any response) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message