From owner-freebsd-current Thu Dec 31 18:30:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21424 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:30:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat1262.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.186.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21411; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 18:30:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA17519; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:29:44 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 22:29:44 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: sthaug@nethelp.no cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required. In-Reply-To: <15807.915119903@verdi.nethelp.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > > > > We gain the ability to emphasise Postfix and de-emphasise Sendmail. > > > > After an appropriate period, we gain the ability to nuke Sendmail > > > > as Postfix has been solidly tested/used/ported/integrated for > > > > "long enough". No combustion over definitions of "long enough", > > > > please :-). > ... > > Here here...I trust and like sendmail, and have no intentions of > > switching from it... > > I have worked with sendmail for a long time, and have made consulting > money helping companies to configure their sendmail systems. But "like" > and "trust" are words I'd never use together with sendmail. Even after > having worked with sendmail for a long time, I found qmail considerably > easier to get started with (and easier to configure in general). > > If Postfix can help us get away from sendmail as the default, I'd say > it's definitely a good thing. > > But I fear this discussion is going in the religious direction... Hasn't it been such since the beginning? The problem is that its being proposed to take the *established* religion (sendmail) and replacing it with someone else's idea of "the perfect religion" (postfix)... If -core feels that this is the right thing to do, there isn't a thing any of us are going to do to stop this (as has been seen at least once in the recent past?). The *most* appropriate solution to this whole thing, so far, that has been proposed, is to remove both and make then *both* ports... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message