Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:42:32 -0400 From: Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Periodic rant about SCHED_ULE Message-ID: <b29444be-1146-185b-d4cc-d422f9bcdd8c@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: <27f46bc2-54f8-f5aa-79ca-184e86d185d8@m5p.com> References: <202303221710.32MHAhe9047582@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <27f46bc2-54f8-f5aa-79ca-184e86d185d8@m5p.com>
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This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010102080704090801020004 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------XBIDUhzG3d5td0cD89AjjoqM" --------------XBIDUhzG3d5td0cD89AjjoqM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 3/22/2023 13:37, George Mitchell wrote: > On 3/22/23 13:10, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> [...] >> I dont even try ULE any more. I just used 4BSD, as did bde@freebsd.org, >> ULE seems to suck when your have interactive use and compute bound on >> the same box. I have seen interactive in the past take seconds to >> echo a command. IIRC ULE and zfs in a memory contrained environment >> dont play nicely togeather either. >> >> +1 on the return to 4BSD as the default scheduler >> > Thanks for the support and confirming I am not crazy! -- George > Am I correct that toggling between these without a kernel build (or even at runtime) is not possible? Been a minute since I've cared.... :-) -- Karl Denninger karl@denninger.net /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ --------------XBIDUhzG3d5td0cD89AjjoqM Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/22/2023 13:37, George Mitchell wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:27f46bc2-54f8-f5aa-79ca-184e86d185d8@m5p.com">On 3/22/23 13:10, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: <br> <blockquote type="cite">[...] <br> I dont even try ULE any more. I just used 4BSD, as did <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bde@freebsd.org">bde@freebsd.org</a>, <br> ULE seems to suck when your have interactive use and compute bound on <br> the same box. I have seen interactive in the past take seconds to <br> echo a command. IIRC ULE and zfs in a memory contrained environment <br> dont play nicely togeather either. <br> <br> +1 on the return to 4BSD as the default scheduler <br> <br> </blockquote> Thanks for the support and confirming I am not crazy! -- George <br> <br> </blockquote> <p>Am I correct that toggling between these without a kernel build (or even at runtime) is not possible? Been a minute since I've cared.... :-)<br> </p> <div class="moz-signature">-- <br> Karl Denninger<br> <a href="mailto:karl@denninger.net" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">karl@denninger.net</a><br> <i>The Market Ticker</i><br> <font size="-2"><i>[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]</i></font></div> </body> </html> --------------XBIDUhzG3d5td0cD89AjjoqM-- --------------ms010102080704090801020004 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC DbowggagMIIEiKADAgECAhMA5EiKghDOXrvfxYxjITXYDdhIMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMIGL MQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEQMA4GA1UECAwHRmxvcmlkYTESMBAGA1UEBwwJTmljZXZpbGxlMRkw FwYDVQQKDBBDdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExDMRgwFgYDVQQLDA9DdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgQ0ExITAf BgNVBAMMGEN1ZGEgU3lzdGVtcyBMTEMgMjAxNyBDQTAeFw0xNzA4MTcxNjQyMTdaFw0yNzA4 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