From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 7 16:52:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEA2035C for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 16:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A4611C95 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 16:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s87GqmU2040165 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 7 Sep 2014 10:52:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s87GqlxN040162; Sun, 7 Sep 2014 10:52:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 10:52:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Royce Williams Subject: Re: /etc/motd update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:52:48 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 16:52:51 -0000 On Sun, 7 Sep 2014, Royce Williams wrote: > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 5:49 AM, Warren Block wrote: >> >> Based on feedback from -arch, now there is a version that uses only harmless, inoffensive ASCII whitespace to delimit the commands: >> >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/motd/motd.whitespace > > Not to bikeshed overmuch, but such usage of extra whitespace seems > odd/rare, and harms readability. > > If the intent is to help new users get oriented, it doesn't serve the > intended purpose, IMO. > > Better to offset with quotes or something: > > Other questions or problems can be emailed to the questions@FreeBSD.org > mailing list. Please include the output of "uname -a" and any relevant > error messages. The "man man" command gives an introduction to manual > pages, and hier(7) describes the FreeBSD directory layout. This is pretty much what we have now: % `uname -a' Unmatched `. % "man man" man man: Command not found. The goal is to give a new user literal commands that do not need interpretation. I was surprised at how subtly the double spaces showed that the command was separate from the rest of the text. It's not ideal, but there is a serious lack of options in plain ASCII.