From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Oct 15 13:44:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27663 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27580 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:44:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from Celeris (56k-port4044.ime.net [209.90.195.54]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.9.1/8.8.8-Loki) with SMTP id QAA19513; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:44:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) X-Server-ID: Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us, OCSNet - Orland Maine USA X-Coord-Name: Drew "Droobie" Baxter, OneNetwork Exchange X-Coord-Addr: Droobie@Openlink.orland.me.us X-Coord-Pager: USA: 207-471-2719, http://pagedroo.orland.me.us Message-Id: <4.1.0.67.19981015163957.00a29a30@genesis.ispace.com> X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.67 (Beta) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:43:34 -0400 To: "Matthew D. Fuller" From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: ABOUT BSD Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19981015014300.52339@futuresouth.com> References: <4.1.0.67.19981014213310.00a4c390@genesis.ispace.com> <4.1.0.67.19981012161419.00a69140@genesis.ispace.com> <19981014.212617.4279.1.needinfo@juno.com> <4.1.0.67.19981014213310.00a4c390@genesis.ispace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My first FreeBSD machine was running January 1994's (2.0?) release.. I still have the CD Somewhere.. It supported the CDU-33A (Sony) drive and Proprietary interface I got as a Multimedia upgrade from Gateway 2000. The machine was a 386-DX33 with 120MB and 4MB of RAM.. Ran fine, at the time, but I didn't try to run X on it. I have FreeBSD 3.0-980804 on my Acer Extensa laptop (P166MMX 48/2.1gig/20x) and a 3com NIC.. Can't really say I touch that much, but I want to get rid of the laptop for clear Acer-related reasons.. (The thing is a POS). My BIG FreeBSD box is Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us, a PII-333 running FreeBSD-BETA (Whatever I CVSup'd last week) on a 56K Frame with 32mb (soon to be 128)/4.1gig (across two drives), 3 nics (two EP devices 3c509's, and 1 XL device 3c905). Supermicro case and board, Samsung and Maxtor drives, and a crap 8X Mitsumi CD-ROM. At 01:43 AM 10/15/98 -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: >On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 09:45:07PM -0400, Drew Baxter woke me up to tell me: >> >> Most flavors of BSD (Open and Free, as well as BSDI (I think)) will run on >> as little as a 386-16SX machine with 120 meg of drive and 4mb of RAM. >> However, my FreeBSD unit is a PII-333 128MB/4.3gig. >I'm going to take this opportunity to blow a little spieal ;) >(Hey, it's -chat!) >I just got through installing 2.1.5-RELEASE on a 386 DX/20 with 4 megs of >ram and a 100 meg hard drive (appropriately named Musca). It was quite >an experience, since it didn't really install over FTP and/or NFS right >from the 2.1.5 CD. Hrmph. But I managed to coax it into working. >Earlier today, I had to recompile the kernel on my workstation (ppro 180, >128 meg ram). It takes on average about 4, 4.5 minutes to do so. It's >around 1.2 megs. Last night, I built a kernel on the 386. It's about >700k. It took about 6.5 hours to compile. YES, I like pain! >Next goal: NFS mount a /usr/src and /usr/obj (no room on it's 76 meg / >partition for THAT) and do a buildworld! I'm guessing it'll take less >than 7 days, but more than 6. > >> Here is a generic 'minimum' breakdown.. This is what I think is the lowest >> I'd run FreeBSD on, especially if I wanted to do XWindows. > >Right now I'm running X on my laptop. >IBM ThinkPad 350C: 486 SLC/25, 12 megs RAM, C&T 512k video chipset. I'm >at 8 bpp, 640x480. Still seeing if I can coax it up to 800x600, but I'm >not holding out too much hope. 240 meg-ish hard drive. Not a hard >workin' system, but I can run vi on the go. >Oh, and I'm too lazy to buy a PCMCIA Ethernet card, so it's using a >hardwired SLIP connection. I have a script to set the different IP etc >for at work vs. at home. It's down to 19200 baud, and still gets silo >overflows occasionally. Oh well. > >Just my little blurb for the day. New -chat thread: brag about your >crappiest system. I have a 386 SX/16 laptop that I need to cobble up a >power supply for, but if I can I'm going to see if I can get it going, >just for the heck of it... > > >*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* >| FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | >* "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * >| that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| >* fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * >| http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | >*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message