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Good choice is to have FreeBSD instead of Linux,today,since Linux is becoming more and more like Windows and if this trend will not be corrected,it will inherit some of the worst defects of Windows. Luckily FreeBSD is far away from being user friendly like Windows. So we are safe for now. My two cents even if they are not so tight with your requirements. I hope you will appreciate them anyway. Ciao dalla bella Italia. On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 2:49=E2=80=AFPM Alice Sowerby wrote: > Hi Ankush, welcome, and congratulations on your excellent taste :) > > Others will be able to give you more insight than I will, but I can direc= t > you to the most recent thread on the same subject: > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers/2025-September/005076.= html > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2025 at 12:47=E2=80=AFPM Ankush Mondal > wrote: > >> Hello FreeBSD org, >> I=E2=80=99m Ankush Mondal, a 4th-year university undergraduate pursuing = a >> Bachelor=E2=80=99s degree in Computer Science. I=E2=80=99ve been using F= reeBSD in a VM, and >> my interest in OS internals naturally pushed me toward exploring OS >> development. I previously looked into Linux internals, but the codebase >> felt a bit chaotic. Eventually, I discovered that FreeBSD=E2=80=99s code= base is >> much cleaner and easier to navigate. Could you guide me on how to get >> started with FreeBSD development? >> > --=20 Mario. --000000000000556f5d0643cab151 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Ankush.

Good choice is= to have FreeBSD instead of Linux,today,since Linux is becoming=C2=A0more a= nd more like Windows and if this trend will not be corrected,it will inheri= t some of the worst defects of Windows. Luckily FreeBSD is far away from be= ing user friendly like Windows. So we are safe=C2=A0for now.=C2=A0

My two cents even if they are not so tight with your requi= rements. I hope you will appreciate them anyway.=C2=A0

=
Ciao dalla bella Italia.

On Mon,= Nov 17, 2025 at 2:49=E2=80=AFPM Alice Sowerby <alice@freebsdfoundation.org> wrote:
=
Hi Ankus= h, welcome, and congratulations on your excellent taste :)

Others will be able to give you more insight than=C2=A0I will, but I can= direct you to the most recent thread on the same subject:=C2=A0
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On Mon, N= ov 17, 2025 at 12:47=E2=80=AFPM Ankush Mondal <ankushmondal1y2t@gmail.com> w= rote:
Hello FreeBSD org,
I=E2=80=99m Ankush Mondal, a 4th-year unive= rsity undergraduate pursuing a Bachelor=E2=80=99s degree in Computer Scienc= e. I=E2=80=99ve been using FreeBSD in a VM, and my interest in OS internals= naturally pushed me toward exploring OS development. I previously looked i= nto Linux internals, but the codebase felt a bit chaotic. Eventually, I dis= covered that FreeBSD=E2=80=99s codebase is much cleaner and easier to navig= ate. Could you guide me on how to get started with FreeBSD development?


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