From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 1 02:23:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C39310656F9 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 02:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.org) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (trang.nuxi.org [74.95.12.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5118FC17 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 02:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.org) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n112NRlw094130; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:23:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n112NRiK094129; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:23:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:23:27 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Michel Talon Message-ID: <20090201022326.GA83330@dragon.NUXI.org> Mail-Followup-To: obrien@freebsd.org, Michel Talon , Kevin Wilcox , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org References: <20090113044111.134EC1CC0B@ptavv.es.net> <20090113222023.GA51810@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <496D1ED6.4090202@FreeBSD.org> <200901132356.40820.ken@mthelicon.com> <496D64A0.1090309@FreeBSD.org> <20090114091342.GA19986@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <5d6848b00901140821s61599c9vb3f91f75142d0481@mail.gmail.com> <20090114172033.GA29254@lpthe.jussieu.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090114172033.GA29254@lpthe.jussieu.fr> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Kevin Wilcox , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Alternatives to gcc (was Re: gcc 4.3: when will it become standard compiler?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:23:28 -0000 On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 06:20:33PM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:21:00AM -0500, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > > 2009/1/14 Michel Talon : > > > Apparently the FreeBSD project doesn't want to include any GPL V3 > > > because there are industrial partners who have banned the GPl V3, > > > out of purely ideological position, without any rational basis. I > > > wonder why the FreeBSD project has any reason to follow them. > > > > If you make the claim that banning GPL v3 is being done by commercial > > entities that rely on FreeBSD (and other BSD licensed code) for > > reasons that are purely ideological and have no rational basis then > > you either do not fully understand the significance of GPL v3 versus > > GPL v2, you haven't sufficiently worked with a commercial entity with > > regards to GPL/LGPL/BSD code that you (or others) have licensed to > > them or you are just trying to troll the FreeBSD community. I would > > wager the first two are the case here? > > Yes, i make the claim that, as far as the compiler tool chain is considered, > there is no difference between GPL V2 and GPL V3 because both licences > make no restriction on the software compiled with the tool chain. Incorrect. The read of our lawyers at $WORK is that there are open questions on the libstdc++ and other GCC libs in the GPLv3 versions. [This was pre-'GCC RUNTIME LIBRARY EXCEPTION' (Version 3, 27 January 2009)] So yes, there companies that are concerned about this for non-ideological reasons. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)