From nobody Thu Oct 7 15:07:52 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-multimedia@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C1D17EA1EE for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 15:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: from mail-oi1-x22e.google.com (mail-oi1-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HQF8M4zQ0z3QpD for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2021 15:08:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek@cedro.info) Received: by mail-oi1-x22e.google.com with SMTP id 24so9519904oix.0 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:08:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cedro.info; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=2e+YHevKaAzQhntomedPDZzEyr/3KpY6eGTzZAYdzrc=; b=C2n8XTNL27G/PWYWvrtQu4fQ/n4QsGXodCtYVFnZc5JwD7b87iS02xz1RFmcJ7fM9q VUGLvBIEUNeqUfOpV2EiKs1eWKRZUjXEQrRjE+FG8Gbmw+6Ew7LgPyJCSR8tABZp3Uas ZijF/vV+K7cLUDb04gTAq2Bv4SpbjLBFbwj15Jog3RoUsMjPFestn7zmuvBGBaD5sHfY MzXpY5+cSxrxP+YCc4sPQb215eABBRy0SQtyV2wwjLJHTswt6Knu0Sg+FjVfulzqzXom auwCQfPA+ESaOzAThZrFrYoBP8zOpk4vSI1TpynSW8/vr+LyMLuI8/loyJyKXtCwuPXb e00g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2e+YHevKaAzQhntomedPDZzEyr/3KpY6eGTzZAYdzrc=; b=6fu6E+nosYREYOSn1fV9Fh5EjdC1777vDhnMJpxAghCshaC1cBidSR1dPuCXLIJb72 RHMHnRu+VgRemmIjBP6ilE9nT8KbeukHlvUCtQu7YD5B15dVSQzb2xtJkMKxOvW7xQeE 2rPLuNtT9jGyteSbWKODeYsmH4DRrAHfDLuwZimrFN/PpcrBXMTARK/w7QNl6Ohmo376 z8gS0LyN5+jMg5MF1q7vnNe7+3U/2/9GlVsem37VZ1eoyceYcNNl5YH0zyvcb3jJIWcF ay+GK9CiCjP69fiXRUIbc99j2esw3A1lt9xwmUxEmP8lmhwIwpVNmnkLyoV0Pxt5oF8v ylzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530HpjStMhlliOuiUM8eBRCRjeU0XnDSdy9Al/5His11Rl61UZDe V3tKy+snufOG6FLOkth4F7HbCcYi57lJWK0W+3SmfA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyZUxp0OIABcnmjvHfjB0QuFjeIYZMtC+Dvf1rXlTJkdplx9x8Nrng/UE2lLMyDI8EZXUQVc/nU+iYeyIJvwmM= X-Received: by 2002:aca:1c02:: with SMTP id c2mr3529805oic.11.1633619324743; Thu, 07 Oct 2021 08:08:44 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-multimedia List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202110041017.194AHqZ9085897@kx.truefc.org> <6323c7c6-1221-1bb4-6028-344fded44558@selasky.org> <202110041052.194AqeLc086237@kx.truefc.org> <9d9fcf6b-8c2d-8659-bd42-dfb61d2d74f7@selasky.org> <202110051033.195AXBsX059249@kx.truefc.org> <95138258-4c6b-92f4-fc56-45a4618edc8d@selasky.org> <202110051146.195BklYI092330@kx.truefc.org> <0b1ded5a-cfc8-1c2e-7920-eac257332298@selasky.org> <202110052229.195MTpav024388@kx.truefc.org> <202110070152.1971pxJ8061955@kx.truefc.org> <202110071201.197C1ATK068567@kx.truefc.org> <98204833-ee1e-4c2a-ab0d-cbbfff23faf7@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <98204833-ee1e-4c2a-ab0d-cbbfff23faf7@www.fastmail.com> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2021 17:07:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Mic does not work with Zoom on Chromium 92.0.4515.159. To: Dave Cottlehuber Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HQF8M4zQ0z3QpD X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 4:28 PM Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > (..) > funny, I find pulse audio infinitely frustrating. > (..) > your sndio tips help on my setup, now I can do audio confs in chromium, > with appropriate x11 screen sharing [1]: > (..) > I do notice that lossless music (e.g. flac or similar) isn't sounding as crisp, though, compared to my mojo chord USB-DAC. But I can live with this for meetings. > > It would be nicer when this upstream firefox bug finally gets merged, and sharing a single monitor becomes possible: The worst part is most commercial web conferences forces users to use Chrome, while Chromium is only castrated version of that. Not all video conferencing work in Firefox. This is why I find JITSI Meet best solution, it is also Open-Source. I stoppped using Chrome/Chromium several years ago when each my request and search was sent to Google even before DNS request. In Firefox I have FULL list of my devices, I can switch microphone on the fly during the conference. I have PulseAudio backend and I can also switch the sound ouput on the fly. It was possible in Chromium not that long ago, probably thanks to PA backend. Now I have to play with terminal, environment variables, and restart browser between each change. How is that better? The purpose of web video conferencing is quick meeting with focus on the subject of the meeting. Each time some people even using windows have some sound and microphone problems. Its like computers and internets showed up 2 weeks ago. Unbelievable. Also I noticed recent change between oss/sndio and PulseAudio - one card is 3 in pa while 4 in oss/sndio. That brings even more confusion. So my configuration created for sndio on meeting last month is now obsolete. This will touch you too one day. So many choices. What a wonderful world. -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info