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Date:      Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:59:11 -0700
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Walter Hop" <walter@binity.com>, "Josh Paetzel" <jpaetzel@hutchtel.net>
Cc:        "Randall Hopper" <aa8vb@yahoo.com>, "Edwin Groothuis" <edwin@mavetju.org>, <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, <aa8vb@nc.rr.com>
Subject:   RE: ARG!!! 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostnam
Message-ID:  <004b01c0baf6$fb98f340$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <71469753.20010401222109@binity.com>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Walter Hop
>
>Although it is very cute to distribute all outgoing mail from your home
>box directly, there will probably be a lot more sites that will bounce
>your mail, even when reverse DNS has been set up for your IP. See
>http://mail-abuse.org/dul/ for details on this.
>

This is only true if you are attempting to set up a mailserver without the
participation of your ISP.  Seeing as how your ISP takes the brunt of the
complaints
for an end-users misconfigured mailserver, I fail to see why any end-user
thinks
it's unreasonable to work with the ISP when setting up a home mailserver.

With us, people that want to run mailservers off of an intermittent dialup
line that do their own mailing, whether using a getem-with-POP3 solution
like fetchmail, or doing it the proper way with ETRN, are given a static IP
number that's in a completely different subnet than our dialup subnet, and
thus don't have interference with solutions like DUL.  This is the proper
way to do this and it's how any decent ISP sets up their network.

I'm very sympathetic to users that want to run their own mailserver, but I
have no sympathy whatsoever if they try to go behind my back and use one of
those dynamic dns server thingies on the Internet to get a matching reverse
address for a dynamic IP they have pulled out of the dialup pool.  I think
that people that run those sorts of DNS servers ought to be lined up against
the wall and shot at dawn.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com



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